Comentarii la: NU cumpărați Bavaria – Ep 230 – Lady K Sailing

De: Mauro L.

Mauro L. — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 16:00:41 +0000

In Mediterranean sailing circles, Bavarias are known as low-medium-level economic boats, especially suitable for charter companies that take advantage of the insurance policies taken out by customers to finance repairs not necessarily caused by them… I would never buy a Bavaria for personal use, but there are those who think otherwise. The world is beautiful because it is varied, but you always get what you spend. I don't believe in miracles…

De: Douglas

Douglas — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 15:44:02 +0000

I have to agree with Walter van der Boor that 2% discount to cover warranty work seems like a ridiculously low number. That's BUSA's fault to sign such a contract. I've owned a Bavaria 37, 2001, for 5 years, and to date it has been a solid reliable boat. Your history of this brand is very thin on content, you skip from the 1980's to 2014, so you are using a very broad brush to denigrate Bavaria boats. This seems to be a ' produce content video' without merit. I have no idea how the company is currently being run, or what quality of boats they are producing these days, other than my early attempts to contact Bavaria concerning a replacement part, from which I never received a reply. I also once was in the area where the Bavaria factory is, in Germany, and tried to 'drop in'. It's a huge complex, razor wire fenced in, front entrance locked with an intercom… they essentially told me to go away. But I am still happy with the boat I have, pretty well done for a production boat, and I have had a lot less issues with it than I had with my 1998 Island Packet, which I owned for 8 years, bought in 2000 with 40 engine hours, and dealt with multiple serious issues over those 8 years, all production issues. This is anecdotal info of course.

De: Joe M

Joe M — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 14:40:36 +0000

De: Kobor Kutya

Kobor Kutya — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 13:54:12 +0000

we will probably never find out the whole story. BUSA paints itself as an innocent victim, which I would also do when filing for bankrupcy. Design flaw and quality drop is not the main problem in my eyes, it is the impression of not owning it up, unlike the cat manufacturer you mentioned in the previous episode.

De: Walter van der Boor

Walter van der Boor — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 13:01:54 +0000

We live on a Bavaria 1997 and although it was a pre-series test boat… the quality is outstanding. We found out that they almost bankrupted. Our boat was taken by a director instead of payment..then they just escaped the situation. The boat has a lot of real wood and high-quality laminates that even today look near new. In later years the production went up and quality went down at the same pace. But having said that we meet many Bavaria owners around the world and 99 out of 100 are very happy. Practical, liveable, and more space than in other brands are just a few of the positives. Easy to reach most technical parts.. But yeah things break. in our case so far its other brand stuff that breaks, not anything Bavaria produced. Hence your title comes across as shaming. We hear about oysters losing keels, Hunters, and Lagoons with problems… You don't say don't buy any if these. Like the lagoon 450 you just made a video about. As for BUSA and its issues. I am an insurance & investment professional and I hear about the 2% Bavaria paid for repairs and trouble-solving. I see that % as extremely low. But for that price the dealer may have been able to purchase "builders insurance'" IN case that was not possible they should have rejected the offer. And in hindsight, it was not realistic. Most boat owners know that the first year after purchase you run into issues. Its hard to understand from your video whether these where normal issues or real production failures. A manager than saying the quality needs to go up again, that, frankly does not mean anything. Given we can still cal Bavaria for support after all tthese years and get either amn advice or they help arrange the part…. Do buy one if you like them, they are great boats, especially the older types.

De: Jörg Reinhardt

Jörg Reinhardt — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 12:56:06 +0000

Bavaria is a land locked mountainous region of Germany, which is also where those boats are built… what do you expect from a Lederhosen boat?

De: noone swedish

noone swedish — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 12:16:34 +0000

You're comparison between Bavaria and Hunter is god to explain to the audience in north America. When Bavaria got started there where a slue of small yacht builders in Europa and they had the choice of getting better or get wiped out. what went wrong i who'd sum it up as complacency and lack of vision, that is unfortunately all too common for companies that started as the dream of a visionary and whose airs sell it of to a holding company.

De: Julie Santoboni

Julie Santoboni — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 12:12:10 +0000

We owned a 2016 Bavaria, purchased out of the bankruptcy sale. Had zero quality problems and found the woodwork to be superior quality to that in a beneteau or Jeanneau. Also found it sealed better than the jeanneau we had chartered. Would absolutely buy again, were it not for the fact we have our eyes on a different type of boat.

De: Ralf Kohlrausch

Ralf Kohlrausch — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 09:34:49 +0000

Hi Tim! You're Canadian, right? So why not do an episode on Grampians. Started in Canada with US-Designs, named after Scottish mountains, opened a branch in the US, took on Scottish an Dutch Designers, gave licenses to English yards (with strange differences between Canadian and Englisch boats) and also sold boats as kits. So – nobody really knows how many of them have been built. Oh, and of course there are insolvencies in the mix.
Greets
Ralf C.

De: Steven Fogerty

Steven Fogerty — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 09:14:12 +0000

Bolt on keels? Never ends well. We Call them Bendys in Australia. First thing you do when you buy this plastic toy is glass on a 12mm stainless plate into the keel bilge then secure the keel on properly.