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	Comentarii la: BAD Sailboats &#8211; Ce nu trebuie să cumpărați &#8211; Ep 232 &#8211; Lady K Sailing	</title>
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	<description>Televiziunea on-line a iubitorilor de yachting din Romania!</description>
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		De: Ted Nelson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Nelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[so far your asking for money but haven&#039;t gotten to the topic of your video and we are halfway through. Getting through some of the rambling is ok but geeze... I will not even like until the end of the video much less give.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so far your asking for money but haven&#39;t gotten to the topic of your video and we are halfway through. Getting through some of the rambling is ok but geeze&#8230; I will not even like until the end of the video much less give.</p>
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		De: Tomas Dolezsal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomas Dolezsal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great video as always!  We just had a similar conversation with a willing buyer about one offer this year.  In April there was a buyer willing to buy a 36 ft Beneteau in Menorca (EU, Meds) The seller asked for a deposit for showing the vessel documentation and arranging the visit of the vessel. That was a show-stopper for us.  He sent some pictures of the vessel (the vessel was listed on YachtWorld with 6 photos in total). We also noticed that the pictures not matching (like there was a mixture of two boats) Another red flag was that there was no possible direct contact with the seller just the agent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video as always!  We just had a similar conversation with a willing buyer about one offer this year.  In April there was a buyer willing to buy a 36 ft Beneteau in Menorca (EU, Meds) The seller asked for a deposit for showing the vessel documentation and arranging the visit of the vessel. That was a show-stopper for us.  He sent some pictures of the vessel (the vessel was listed on YachtWorld with 6 photos in total). We also noticed that the pictures not matching (like there was a mixture of two boats) Another red flag was that there was no possible direct contact with the seller just the agent.</p>
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		De: Stephen Deverell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Deverell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 10:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Absolutely essential is to include the steering gear in any assessment. In my estimation more boats are abandoned on passage because of steering gear failure than for any other reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely essential is to include the steering gear in any assessment. In my estimation more boats are abandoned on passage because of steering gear failure than for any other reason.</p>
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		De: Onyourbiketoo		</title>
		<link>https://sailingtv.ro/2023/06/16/bad-sailboats-ce-nu-trebuie-sa-cumparati-ep-232-lady-k-sailing/#comment-246047</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Onyourbiketoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 07:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WOW .. as a self confessed ‘consultant’ you have some very bias opinions that could even be challenged as incorrect. As balance to your opinion for all those watching this video many consider the Jeanneau boats very old fashioned looking and designed, the Beneteau boats are much for stylish and modern. You’re incorrect to say that the equivalent 42ft Beneteau does not have twin helms and the small 40ft Beneteau is close to 14ft wide so much wider that the J42 and as for groceries from dingy to galley, well I’ve owned both and Beneteau winds hands down with a fold down swim platform rather than the narrow high step in the hull of the Jeanneau that the dingy keeps trying to disappear under every time you transfer. It’s my experience that the J will sail a little better and point better but at the expense on the cruising and living we’re the B does a far better job with more space, storage and layout, so for the Caribbean, are you a sail racer or a cruiser although the Beneteaus have wine the Fastnet and the Sydney Hobart.  Jeanneau are slowly getting better and finding space with sail performance but it’s my opinion that in todays market the interest is more on the cruising than the hard core sailing, remember, it was Beneteau that bought Jeanneau. Beneteau would be my preferred choice of the two every time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW .. as a self confessed ‘consultant’ you have some very bias opinions that could even be challenged as incorrect. As balance to your opinion for all those watching this video many consider the Jeanneau boats very old fashioned looking and designed, the Beneteau boats are much for stylish and modern. You’re incorrect to say that the equivalent 42ft Beneteau does not have twin helms and the small 40ft Beneteau is close to 14ft wide so much wider that the J42 and as for groceries from dingy to galley, well I’ve owned both and Beneteau winds hands down with a fold down swim platform rather than the narrow high step in the hull of the Jeanneau that the dingy keeps trying to disappear under every time you transfer. It’s my experience that the J will sail a little better and point better but at the expense on the cruising and living we’re the B does a far better job with more space, storage and layout, so for the Caribbean, are you a sail racer or a cruiser although the Beneteaus have wine the Fastnet and the Sydney Hobart.  Jeanneau are slowly getting better and finding space with sail performance but it’s my opinion that in todays market the interest is more on the cruising than the hard core sailing, remember, it was Beneteau that bought Jeanneau. Beneteau would be my preferred choice of the two every time.</p>
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		De: kevin gardei		</title>
		<link>https://sailingtv.ro/2023/06/16/bad-sailboats-ce-nu-trebuie-sa-cumparati-ep-232-lady-k-sailing/#comment-246048</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kevin gardei]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 06:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ahhhh, maybe $45k &#034;maybe&#034; you&#039;ll be at least 6 months on land in a marina to fix it,,, and  $50k in parts... &lt;br&gt;This is for a younger couple with an online job, or lottery winner and time!!! &lt;br&gt;Your not working for the airline and doing this project!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhh, maybe $45k &quot;maybe&quot; you&#39;ll be at least 6 months on land in a marina to fix it,,, and  $50k in parts&#8230; <br />This is for a younger couple with an online job, or lottery winner and time!!! <br />Your not working for the airline and doing this project!!!</p>
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		De: Steve Crane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Crane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 01:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Always be careful with POP Yachts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always be careful with POP Yachts.</p>
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		De: *Uncle Joe*		</title>
		<link>https://sailingtv.ro/2023/06/16/bad-sailboats-ce-nu-trebuie-sa-cumparati-ep-232-lady-k-sailing/#comment-246050</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[*Uncle Joe*]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 00:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Captain Tim, you are steaming ahead!  Well done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain Tim, you are steaming ahead!  Well done.</p>
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		De: John Brady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Brady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 21:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having been a broker (and I like to think a fair and honest one), I&#039;d like to add a few counterpoints to the discussion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  Courtesy dictates that a buyer not demand to inspect a boat at a specific time, such as noon on a Saturday, when the seller hopes to be using the boat.  Many do!  But for the seller to demand a deposit to show a boat is absurd.  Keep in mind though, if a buyer wants to sea trial a boat, it is reasonable and customary for a seller&#039;s broker to ask for a deposit and purchase agreement subject to sea trial and survey to the sole satisfaction of the buyer.&lt;br&gt;2.  Is the boat documented?  This could clarify some of the issues concerning clear title.  For a reasonable fee, a documentation company will investigate.  Frequently, banks will require this to write a loan on a boat.&lt;br&gt;3.  It&#039;s important to know that the buyer has every right to conduct whatever unfettered, non-destructive survey processes he wants to assure his satisfaction with the condition of the vessel, but that he does so at his own expense.  Normally, the seller is responsible to deliver and operate the boat for the survey.  Given the distance the boat would need to be moved to haul it, I would proposed this compromise:&lt;br&gt;a.  A sales agreement is signed, and the buyer makes the customary 10% deposit to the broker&#039;s escrow account.  The buyer pays for an in water survey where the boat lies and the seller provides a sea trial with all stakeholders aboard.&lt;br&gt;b.  If, after any agreed price adjustments that may result from in water survey findings, the buyer increases his deposit from the customary 10% to 20%.  The seller then becomes responsible to deliver the vessel to the haul facility at his own expense.  &lt;br&gt;c.  At the end of the out of water survey, the buyer may sign an acceptance of the vessel (with further appropriate price adjustments), or reject the vessel and receive a prompt return of his 20% deposit after the broker has assurance that survey and yard haul out fees have been paid by the buyer.  The seller would then be responsible to return the boat to its home port at his sole expense.&lt;br&gt;d.  As for the condition of the boat, there are big and small issues to be considered here.  There is a buyer for (almost) every boat, at an appropriate price.   If a buyer wants a boat that is yacht club presentable and comes with an inch thick folder of maintenance history, he should be prepared to pay top dollar.  He will not reach an agreement with the seller by comparing that boat to the lowest price sister ship on the market!  Many try to.&lt;br&gt;4.  A broker earns his commission by honestly presenting a boat in a favorable but honest light in the context of the asking price.  That often involves tactfully letting the seller know that his boat is not as well found as the he believes and that price reductions may be needed. I believe that in most cases, a buyer gets what he pays for and a seller receives a fair price for a properly surveyed vessel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been a broker (and I like to think a fair and honest one), I&#39;d like to add a few counterpoints to the discussion.</p>
<p>1.  Courtesy dictates that a buyer not demand to inspect a boat at a specific time, such as noon on a Saturday, when the seller hopes to be using the boat.  Many do!  But for the seller to demand a deposit to show a boat is absurd.  Keep in mind though, if a buyer wants to sea trial a boat, it is reasonable and customary for a seller&#39;s broker to ask for a deposit and purchase agreement subject to sea trial and survey to the sole satisfaction of the buyer.<br />2.  Is the boat documented?  This could clarify some of the issues concerning clear title.  For a reasonable fee, a documentation company will investigate.  Frequently, banks will require this to write a loan on a boat.<br />3.  It&#39;s important to know that the buyer has every right to conduct whatever unfettered, non-destructive survey processes he wants to assure his satisfaction with the condition of the vessel, but that he does so at his own expense.  Normally, the seller is responsible to deliver and operate the boat for the survey.  Given the distance the boat would need to be moved to haul it, I would proposed this compromise:<br />a.  A sales agreement is signed, and the buyer makes the customary 10% deposit to the broker&#39;s escrow account.  The buyer pays for an in water survey where the boat lies and the seller provides a sea trial with all stakeholders aboard.<br />b.  If, after any agreed price adjustments that may result from in water survey findings, the buyer increases his deposit from the customary 10% to 20%.  The seller then becomes responsible to deliver the vessel to the haul facility at his own expense.  <br />c.  At the end of the out of water survey, the buyer may sign an acceptance of the vessel (with further appropriate price adjustments), or reject the vessel and receive a prompt return of his 20% deposit after the broker has assurance that survey and yard haul out fees have been paid by the buyer.  The seller would then be responsible to return the boat to its home port at his sole expense.<br />d.  As for the condition of the boat, there are big and small issues to be considered here.  There is a buyer for (almost) every boat, at an appropriate price.   If a buyer wants a boat that is yacht club presentable and comes with an inch thick folder of maintenance history, he should be prepared to pay top dollar.  He will not reach an agreement with the seller by comparing that boat to the lowest price sister ship on the market!  Many try to.<br />4.  A broker earns his commission by honestly presenting a boat in a favorable but honest light in the context of the asking price.  That often involves tactfully letting the seller know that his boat is not as well found as the he believes and that price reductions may be needed. I believe that in most cases, a buyer gets what he pays for and a seller receives a fair price for a properly surveyed vessel.</p>
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		De: Colin Osborne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin Osborne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 20:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t good boats have paperwork, sales invoices, vat records? Also a builders number deep engraved inside the stern?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t good boats have paperwork, sales invoices, vat records? Also a builders number deep engraved inside the stern?</p>
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		De: Iain MacDonald		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iain MacDonald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 18:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great video expert knowledge, experience and advice will save you a ton.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video expert knowledge, experience and advice will save you a ton.</p>
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