Comentarii la: Acest nod a ucis 2 marinari

De: @kking4422

@kking4422 — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:24:40 +0000

A lot of ‘expert comments and criticisms here’. An excellent description and account. There were very experienced crew on board. I knew one of them. This was avoidable but it was a very sudden and extremely violent consequence. Please be careful and measured when criticising from the comfort of your living room.

De: @kking4422

@kking4422 — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:37:21 +0000

As a professional master mariner with 40 years experience and several hundred thousand blue water miles ( stopped counting) I would like to state that I hold experience well above qualifications. When I started experience was what counted. The fervour for qualifications has been advanced by insurance companies and can be achieved with minimal sea time. Unless there is regular time at sea these ‘qualifications and acquired skills ‘ fall out of habit. Practise ( helps) make perfect

De: @nickbreen287

@nickbreen287 — Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:34:00 +0000

All the gear and no idea?

De: @amitabak3937

@amitabak3937 — Sun, 29 Sep 2024 19:24:10 +0000

Great review.
One hopes other sailors will learn and implement from this incident.
The main lesson.., Investing money in large quantities does not suffice to make a boat safe. Owner, skipper and crew well trained and practiced are essential.
It takes time to build a team and it has to be done gradually going scenario by scenario.
“Team” can be a single handed or multi crew team. You go to sea, the “crew” must be trained on the specific boat.
Team buildup plan including manoeuvres , best practices, emergency equipment , prudent sail plans fitting the weather for “this” boat, emergency steering drills, watch checkup list including hydraulic levels, dry bildge checkup etc. it’s a long list , which by the way , must be trained and refreshed periodically. Most important is probably “expect the unexpected and act accordingly”

De: @sjb3460

@sjb3460 — Sun, 29 Sep 2024 17:54:03 +0000

Why didn't the owners buy a new boat built to their specifications? How much money did they save? It couldn't have been very much. Were the new owners cheapskates?

De: @firstlast1047

@firstlast1047 — Sat, 28 Sep 2024 23:46:03 +0000

I'm glad all the commenters survived this incident. Hope they all collaborate and publish their findings.
"Armchair admirals musings on tragic incident"

De: @Trump985

@Trump985 — Sat, 28 Sep 2024 23:03:45 +0000

While I’m a merchant mariner I don’t know much about sail boats. What happened to the hydraulic fluid? I’m assuming they blew a hose and lost all the fluid in a few seconds but I’m very confused as to why they didn’t simply replace the hose and refill the hydraulic tank? Did both steering pumps fail? Did they lose all gensets? Nothing makes sense to me as to how short of physical damage to the rudder itself could be an unfixable problem. Did this boat not have an emergency steering system? Every single screw vessel I’ve ever sailed on has something to steer it in an emergency such as a steam or diesel pony engine, or even a emergency tiller that can be put onto the rudder post and rigged with two block and tackles and manually operated by a few men. You said there was pressure in the steering cylinders, why weren’t the bypass valves opened? Where talking about some massive rudders on offshore tugs and ships here, such a setup for a little sailboat wouldn’t need to be anywhere near as large or heavy.

De: @sheepdog401

@sheepdog401 — Sat, 28 Sep 2024 21:49:24 +0000

A comedy of deadly decisions and errors led by a skipper that had some course and book knowledge but no real world knowledge of actually being in command.

De: @rwm1980

@rwm1980 — Sat, 28 Sep 2024 21:01:21 +0000

wow

De: @JOHNYLAW100

@JOHNYLAW100 — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 23:46:25 +0000

What a failure; did not even think to throw a life preserver to the man in the water.