Cum să alegi cele mai bune (și să eviți cele mai rele) bărci cu pânze Bluewater



Doriți să cumpărați o barcă cu pânze cu apă albastră? În acest videoclip, ne aprofundăm cum să alegem cea mai bună barcă cu pânze cu apă albastră pentru croazieră offshore – și, mai important, ce să eviți! Linkuri utile: USCG Capsize Report din 1972: https://www.academia.edu/3113052/Experimental_studies_of_capsizing_of_intact_ships_in_heavy_seas Bob Perry Design Reviews (Toate): https://sailingmagazine.net/articles.sec-perry-on-1 design.html Date despre barca cu pânze: https://sailboatdata.com/ Numere de date Explicație: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDlU5cD5Co0&themeRefresh=1 Bărci cu cele mai bune rapoarte de confort: https://www.cruisersforum. com/forums/f2/motion-comfort-ratio-114288.html O poveste despre călătoria inaugurală a lui Kraken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNHCHp8yjcE&t=2s Lecții din tragedia CNB66: https://www. .morganscloud.com/2022/08/22/lessons-from-a-tragedy-at-sea/ Champagne Hippy Story: https://www.yachtingworld.com/extraordinary-boats/champagne-hippy-oyster-825-luxury -charter-yacht-126434 Sail Calculator: https://tomdove.com/sailcalc/sailcalc.html ❤️ ACESTE VIDEO LUCRĂ O TONĂ DE MUNCĂ, LUATĂ ÎN VEDERE A NE SPRIJINE ❤️ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/svzingaro T- tricouri: https://www.bonfire.com/store/zingaro/ ⛵ Capitole: 0:00 – Introducere și prezentare generală 1:21 – Instructorul dvs. 2:43 – Cea mai importantă întrebare 4:26 – Cum sunt construite bărcile din fibră de sticlă 6 :17 – Cum a influențat cursele ambarcațiunile de croazieră 9:11 – TRUC pentru a compara două bărci 10:19 – Forma carenei: Double Enders 11:18 – Forma cocii: pupa surplosă 11:55 – Pro și contra formei chilei 18:20 – Tipuri de cârmă Pro și contra 20:29 – Lecții învățate 22:11 – Următorul videoclip

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  • @Leo-vk6qm

    Yay, looking forward to the next videos.

  • @pierre6299

    I think the Kraken even has a Titanium skeg, not the aluminium… Great video, and helpfull.

  • @svhulda6157

    Amazing, you don't understand prop wash 🙂

  • @markcostello9483

    I think you've finally found structure for your channel. It can still be eclectic to have variety. But have a clear repeatable path to share your stories will secure your channels longevity.

  • @blankvirtue

    Fantastic simpifying explanation of complex subjects.Thank you for explaing these things

  • @DickBeddoe

    Agreed 100%… Dual rudders… Daft So exposed to damage and no prop wash. IMO the new Oysters are not really blue water! More like really luxurious caravans. The Kraken truly is blue water… Brilliant yacht

  • @brownnoise357

    Hmm. This just popped up on my TV for some reason. A Bit of advice from a pretty old fart who started Sailing when so called Classic Sailboats we Current Production Sailboats, and like almost all of them just like most Catamarans, we're really Crap. So Beware of Anything Considered to be "Blue Water" most are Cramped, and uncomfortable, and avoid most Centre Cockpit Sailboats – unless you like Sweating like you are in a Sauna down below, or sat really uncomfortably in a tiny Cockpitvthat actually os no Safer than an Aft Cockpit. If heading to the Tropics, avoid most boats with glazed Greenhouses slapped on them called Deck Saloons, the only exceptions seem to be the Moody DS, as the door can be kept open and there is good Cockpit Sun Protection. the other decent one is the Jeanneau Fake DS, though there are issues with the glazing Failing – Samecwith too much Catamaran Glazing, but Catamarans basically suckmat what they are supposed to do, which is actually Sail !,Only One Bramd even seems capable of Properly Sailing Up Wind, and has also totally Tamed the Violent Bucking Bronco Corkscrew Motion, that results from the hulls meeting the waves at different times and it is so Strong and Rigid, unlike others, it doesn't sound like the Cstamaran is on the Brink of Falling apart. Those are Nautitech Catamarans made by Bavaria. Other than that, what people need to Concentrate on, is what makes a really Decent Cruising and Voyaging Sailboat, because pretty much anything can be made capable of Crossing Oceans Safely. But then what do you Need in that Cruising Sailboat AFTER you have reached your Destination ?To open up access into and Out of the maximum Numberr of places, demands a Shallow Draft – ever inch over 4 foot has an impact on where you can go – and to facilitate getting under Bridges, into Estuaries,mandvup Riverscwith Power and Telephone Lines Crossing them, a Mast with a low Air Draft is needed, and to protect Sail Cloth from UV Damage, in Mast Furling has now become essential. So for me a Selden Mast with an above the Waterline Heifht of 40 feet fits the bill, as itbis still under 50 feet with a Skakespeare 6 db gain VHF Aerial on top of it. A nice Comfy Aft Cockpit becomes the Most used Room on the Boat for a Cruiser, protected from the Sun and Rain by a Sprayhood, Biminie, and that Unshaded Aft Cockpit Arch for Solar Panels and Davits. Side panels for extra protection also hel To get enoufh Rigid Solar panels needs a beam of over 4 meters, but finally there are semi flexible Solar Panels that unlike most are immune from UV Delamination, which kills most ofvthemninside 2 years ! so at least 2 of the 200 watt Panels can go on topnof the Biminii for a really decent Solar Output, into what batteries ? Whether AGM or Lifepo4 Batteries, most people absolutely kick the living Daylights out of them, and the extent to which they are abused dramatically Shortens their zservice Lives. It is easy to get about 30 years out of AGM, simply by never Discharging them below 80 % Capacity, and at last we have enough data to start getting about the Same for Lifepo4 Batteries, by never Discharging them below 50 % Capacity, Never Fast Charging them and by sharing their loads and charging to gentle levels – none of this Blowing Shit Up like Will Prowse and others do – just by being gentle, there is no overloading, no overheating of internals, and even Heap Lifepo4 Batteries can be made to deliver for a very long time ! Personally, I will be using a bank of 4 Lifepo4 Batteries to keep all of the Other Batteries – AGM Bank, engine start, generator start, Windlass, and Bow Thruster Batteries in tip top Condition through night loads at Anchor, of lights, Fridge, Freezer inverter power etc, until the Sun comes up to hit the Solar Panels, or if moving the boat, power from the engine alternator, or if Discharge levels get iffy, fire up the Generator. For a properly managed System. My father Dragged me into ambitions of doing a Circumnavigation, thanks to Robin know Johnson and Francis Chichester. But I increasingly came to feel what a really Dumb idea that has become, thanks to outrageous levels of Bureaucracy and timing Constraints of limited time Visa's, which if you exceed your time, can get your Boat Confiscated or force you to set sail with a bad weather Window, which hit Sailing with Thomas, which Shredded his Sails with Be Free. Pass ! Not for me, I have replaced it with Destination Objectives, and Voyages that I can enjoy to places I want to go, such as once things settle down, the phenomenal,achievements of Saudi Arabia, with Desalination Drip Agriculture, with which they have made the Desert Bloom, with the growing of top quality Fruit and vegetables etc, which has turned Saudi Arabia into a Food Exporter . Now THAT, I really want to see. 🤔 Best Wishes. Bob in Wales. 👍

  • @Kitiwake

    Don't waste your money.
    Get a day boat…a stable, manageable, trailer sailer dinghy. One with plenty of string. You'll have to learn to sail. There's no short cut.
    Now you're living.

  • @lolonav

    You can pull your keel few centimeter to change the bolt (needed after 40 years) remove just half with boat under crain. Blue water I would consider shaft propulsion, skeg or 2 rudder (you mention it) . Then safety and protection in cockpit .

  • @brownnoise357

    PS. Sailboat Racing has had nothing but a Negative effect, and it is Still Negative today, if only because of the bad habits that Sailboat Racing drives into the people who take part in it, though the overall Problems are much larger. I was the 1979 Fastnet Race Tragedy that had me running away s reaming in the opposite direction to Sailboat Racing and its negative I pact on Boat Design, because I was extremely close to being one of the Creww on a Sailboat that was Lost ! Instead of improving the Breed, the Racing Disasters since have only confirms,Ed that since 1979, nothing from Sailboat Racing has actually improved anything, from what Ii am seeing anyway. Even stupidities like Deep Drafts, hazards like Twin Rudders on Beamy boats that don't even heel at angles greater than 18 degrees, and Tripping Hazards like Main Sheet Tracks are still normal to fit now, on Cruising Sailboats ? Madness ! 🤔

  • @erikjalefors9377

    My boat is from 76 , its flippin bombproof with full glass hull , fin keel and skeg hung rudder =) Great Video explaining a lot of pros and cons !

  • @JamesonHill-dz2mw

    Dude, never go on a sailboat during a zombie apocalypse! Unless you’ve got a galleon and crew..

  • @charleselmer9848

    Great video. You seemed a little apologetic at times in video for doing this, but I REALLY appreciated the explanation and historical background you gave for your observations and points.

    One issue I might add to your discussion of rudders is not only the question of skegs to protect rudders but also the question of watertight bulkheads fore of the rudder post or posts to prevent catastrophic water ingress when boats hit things at sea, e.g. whales, sunfish, debris, etc. I have read more than a few recent accounts of boats sinking in 15 minutes after their spade rudder was struck and water rushed in and flooded the whole boat. A watertight bulkhead fore of the rudder post can limit such flooding to an aft compartment and save the boat from sinking.

  • @turipz

    Excellent video! Thank you for making it!

  • @jamesgraham6122

    Great resume' for those starting out.. One aspect of the keels you might have mentioned, especially with regards to blue water adventures, .. the ability to Heave to.. A full keel may not point up quite as well but Blue water sailing is often planned to make use of trade winds .. (also.. here in England, the old saying is still sometimes heard; Gentlemen don't sail to windward)..
    Ok.. it was never to be taken seriously, but heaving to is a valuable defense mechanism when it's all getting out of hand, breakages, fatigue, approaching a difficult coastline in poor vis etc.

  • @stefflus08

    Side profile isn't everything. In the traditional klinker built norwegian boats, the most important feature is "Slaget" (long A, means 'the punch' or some such), the long hollow transition from bow to hull being shaped so that the waves are plowed away smoothly. If it's too straight or convex it will come into the boat or slam when heeling over.

  • @Milos80

    So, is Hallberg Rassy good or bad construction?

  • @svamandolin3546

    agree. The extra room and cost to maintain the extra size better spent on a nice hotel/spa/Bed and breakfast when you get to your destination.

  • @vykaart6009

    Canue hull comes from some classic life boat design. This shape made it easier to go astearn during a rescue.

  • @SSBN506

    Great video, very informative. All I would add as an owner of a sailboat form the 70s then 80s and now 2k’s is yes the hull may be stronger and the keel and rudder also if you hit something hard. But one thing my 70s and 80s boats had that made me like the 2k designs much better is less wood where it should not be. My older boats had plywood in the bilge, compression post and deck. This all caused problems that way outweighed any of the other plusses of older designs. I know you were not saying get boats from the 70s and 80s anything newer is just not built well. But if you want a skeg hung rudder a keel without a grid no dule helms no wide transom 90% of what you are now looking for are very old boats. We have so many people at out club who use this guide to a good sailboat and end up with endless problems like the Catalina smile or C&C smile sagging compression posts soft decks and just the problem that old boats are just very old. So, I agree with you mostly on your assessment of a good blue water boat my problem is they don’t really exist without all the down sides of a very old boat with its design flaws or a huge budget.

  • @kirstenbiegger7062

    Misery starts with the sandwich design. Then comes spade rudders and smaller keel fins. Avoiding this 3 things is the key for a long sailing journey!

  • @wolframzirngibl1147

    When it comes to full keels, their sacrifice in upwind performance is a matter of weakness in creating lift in the transverse direction of the boat. Guess why sailplanes have high aspect wings? They have no motor to compensate for the poor performance of stubby plane wings. A full keel hardly renders a wing, but the fin keel does.
    Judging friction by huge wetted area of a full keel, yes, that's an issue. But it causes performance issues on every course, not only the upwind ones.

  • @johnclatworthy1824

    Like all of your videos, this was very educational. Ilike that a lot! I was hoping that you'd discuss swing keels with all the others, as I am interested in a Wauquiez Hood 38. Your previous discussions about solid glass hulls had a big influence on this choice. Thank you.

  • @jorgenadam

    I clearly had the completely wrong boat for offshore sailings with my Hanse 430e glad that did not stop me, I had a incredible few years sailing many thousands of nautical miles in everything from arctic ice filled waters in Greenland to tropical archipelagos in the BVIs

    We rigged the boat according to safety recommendations from offshore regatta rules as well as adding some extra measures of our own. We sailed quite a bit up wind, but we very seldom hit the wave lengths that would make our boat slam in open waters. But it did happen in shallow waters, and we changed our route or slowed down to avoid it.

    Here is my recommendations if you want to sail a fast modern boat but want to be comfortable: Make sure that you are not in a rush, pick good weather windows look at multiple models, and have a plan B, do weather routing for your boat type and get weather reports underway to adjust.

  • @artieleonard7926

    Well done… I we have a Bristol 38.8 and I'm tired of hearing it's a trash can compared to the new boats.. I'd rather have a tank than a prius

  • @wcguthrie

    With 2 rudders you need 2 engines

  • @StupidInternetPeople1

    Amazing doucheFace thumbnail! Congrats you look like every unimaginative, lazy creator on YT. Clearly intelligent people choose stupid face thumbnails because looking like an idiot is a huge indicator that your content must be amazing! 😂

  • @stephenbackhus2272

    had seen your web for years but never watched any – did enjoy this dvd. I have 10,000 miles cruising solo plus some racing.. I am a big fan of rudder's on the stern ,not through hull

  • @jamesstrom6991

    great stuff!
    maybe the explanation of prop walk is incorrect. it has more to do with how the blades bite into the water. yes, flow over rudder matters, but prop walk is another independent force

  • @iznasen

    Yes, I like this content and been watching from day 1. The credential part was very much appreciated especially with the 24years in Navy. Well Done James! Sending love and appreciations from Morocoo!

  • @RR-kl6sl

    PART 2 MULTI HULLS READY YET 🙂 ???

  • @RobertAlexanderRM

    I grew up sailing with my father who I always considered one of the greatest sailors I've ever know. We were at sea for three months every years and sailed from our Mediterranean to Madagascar and Panama. You Sir are the first person that inspires me in the same way: deep real life knowledge very well presented. Maybe the most useful video EVER I stumbled on Youtube. Cheers from Rome

  • @meow1990_2

    Due to a technical malfunction the rental company in Athens, Greece gave us a much larger Jeanneau 41 with dual rudders. Everything you said in the video is spot on! The dual rudders give excellent performance when sailing, and when the boat heels you will always have at least one of the rudders fully submerged in the water for better steering. But, it was absolutely hell to maneuver it inside a tight marina. You couldn't prop wash because of the location of the rudders, and you needed 2½ knots to get some sort of momentum! It handled like a ferry and was very susceptible to be caught in the wind.

  • @Metaspace2

    Thank you, very interesting insights for a layman (but with an engineer's mind) like me

  • @dzhiurgis

    Great video. However, a lot of focus on docking and upwind sailing when most bluewater sailors try to avoid those!
    Keen to see next one, thank you.

  • @williamstares7542

    My dream boat ain't going to be yours. Simple. I did a 3 year circumnav with the wife. I like sailing downwind fast, and need a big bathing platform for fishing,.diving on anchor and easy tender use.

  • @kameltoes2625

    The scary thing I recently saw in one YT video is that some builders are now using only adhesive to attach their keel area structural grids to the hull instead of using fiberglass cloth and resin. In a grounding or other keel strike , the grid support immediately fails..

  • @wills681

    Nice one James; a clear overview. Twin rudders: interested in opinions about interactions with sea mammals, specifically orca. There are many recent, documented encounters where pods of (possibly) adolescent orca have destroyed rudders offshore Spain resulting in emergency situations. It could be isolated pod behaviour but I'm pondering whether the twin rudder configuration stimulates this behavioural response. For clarity, I'm thinking aloud here, not suggesting that twin rudders are the cause. Opinions?

  • @briandale8386

    Someone needs to buy Tayanas name . Like Kraken. Or that company mimicking the old Hylas . Staying with the skeg

  • @OwlSaver

    Interesting video. Would having two props with two rudders help?