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	Comentarii la: AJUTOR, avem nevoie de sfatul tău! Cum ar trebui să ne izolăm catamaranul din aluminiu???	</title>
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		De: @justincase5272		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 08:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t use insulation batts.  Water gets behind them and they WILL separate from the hull, creating an absolute mess, not to mention floating on the water instead of being buoyant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You WANT closed-cell spray foam insulation to SEAL the aluminum hull.  Besides, the close-cell foam provides considerable buoyancy.  Calculate by multiplying the surface area of your hull by the average thickness of the spray foam times the density of FRESH water.  Yes, the ocean is salt water, but the difference will account for at least some of the density of the expanded foam itself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Skip the paints and coating, unless you find something that&#039;s more of a primer to help the spray foam stick even better to the hull while sealing the hull against corrosion even better than the spray foam.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you have critical wires or other runs, lift them away from the hull then wrap key lengths of them in a plastic U such that you can spray insulation foam behind them while preserving them from contact with the foam while providing a narrow channel to be able to find them.  If you need full-width access, jam some cardboard lengths into the U to maintain full width through the foam.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Various means can be used to gain very quick access to the hull through the foam, which is then easily repaired by simply spraying more foam.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reading through the comments from consummate experts with many more years experience than I have merely confirms to me that closed-cell spray foam is definitely the way to go.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My experience:  Building three sheds:  Wood with fiberglass, steel with fiberglass, and steel with closed-cell spray foam.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Winner by a long shot, and for many reasons:  closed-cell spray foam.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Downside:  Carry a portable air device with full face mask in case of fire and you need to extricate someone from the cabin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t use insulation batts.  Water gets behind them and they WILL separate from the hull, creating an absolute mess, not to mention floating on the water instead of being buoyant.</p>
<p>You WANT closed-cell spray foam insulation to SEAL the aluminum hull.  Besides, the close-cell foam provides considerable buoyancy.  Calculate by multiplying the surface area of your hull by the average thickness of the spray foam times the density of FRESH water.  Yes, the ocean is salt water, but the difference will account for at least some of the density of the expanded foam itself.</p>
<p>Skip the paints and coating, unless you find something that&#39;s more of a primer to help the spray foam stick even better to the hull while sealing the hull against corrosion even better than the spray foam.</p>
<p>If you have critical wires or other runs, lift them away from the hull then wrap key lengths of them in a plastic U such that you can spray insulation foam behind them while preserving them from contact with the foam while providing a narrow channel to be able to find them.  If you need full-width access, jam some cardboard lengths into the U to maintain full width through the foam.</p>
<p>Various means can be used to gain very quick access to the hull through the foam, which is then easily repaired by simply spraying more foam.</p>
<p>Reading through the comments from consummate experts with many more years experience than I have merely confirms to me that closed-cell spray foam is definitely the way to go.</p>
<p>My experience:  Building three sheds:  Wood with fiberglass, steel with fiberglass, and steel with closed-cell spray foam.</p>
<p>Winner by a long shot, and for many reasons:  closed-cell spray foam.</p>
<p>Downside:  Carry a portable air device with full face mask in case of fire and you need to extricate someone from the cabin.</p>
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		De: @icehog3454		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 06:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Asbestos is the only way to go. Lots and lots of fluffy asbestos. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />.  Brian I believe spray foam is the only way to go as it will act as a vapour barrier and will stop condensation on the metal surfaces. I get why you are hesitant. Perhaps you could leave one run from front to back open. And use your black close cell foam in that. That way you have a run for wiring, plumbing and what have you for future considerations maybe even use that for all mechanicals during your build. For all systems. . The new delos is looking sweet. Cheers]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asbestos is the only way to go. Lots and lots of fluffy asbestos. 😂.  Brian I believe spray foam is the only way to go as it will act as a vapour barrier and will stop condensation on the metal surfaces. I get why you are hesitant. Perhaps you could leave one run from front to back open. And use your black close cell foam in that. That way you have a run for wiring, plumbing and what have you for future considerations maybe even use that for all mechanicals during your build. For all systems. . The new delos is looking sweet. Cheers</p>
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		De: @datasetsea		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 05:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lol waking up the entire anchorage with that bass line over here :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol waking up the entire anchorage with that bass line over here 😀</p>
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		De: @chiplawrence7178		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 03:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian, IMHO closed cell spray foam is the way. Run smurf  tube with wire fishing lines wherever cable drops need to happen, but make sure the tubes do not touch the outer hull.  If there is an area you are really worried about, like where the buss bars have joints, use something else there. All the other solutions let too much cold through or heat out, actually.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, IMHO closed cell spray foam is the way. Run smurf  tube with wire fishing lines wherever cable drops need to happen, but make sure the tubes do not touch the outer hull.  If there is an area you are really worried about, like where the buss bars have joints, use something else there. All the other solutions let too much cold through or heat out, actually.</p>
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		De: @kymjames8146		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 23:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would install conduits for future installs like I did in my studio.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would install conduits for future installs like I did in my studio.</p>
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		De: @kymjames8146		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 22:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have you looked into Total Boat Flotation Foam - 2 Part Expanding Polyurethane Marine Pour Foam For Boat Floatation, Insulation And Soundproofing (2 LB Density, 2 Quart Kit) as a way to increase your bouncy? There are foams the put in buoy&#039;s  that are water resistant and mold resistant. Just a thought when you mentioned weight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you looked into Total Boat Flotation Foam &#8211; 2 Part Expanding Polyurethane Marine Pour Foam For Boat Floatation, Insulation And Soundproofing (2 LB Density, 2 Quart Kit) as a way to increase your bouncy? There are foams the put in buoy&#39;s  that are water resistant and mold resistant. Just a thought when you mentioned weight.</p>
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		De: @notj5712		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 22:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whatever you use, make sure it&#039;s closed cell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you use, make sure it&#39;s closed cell.</p>
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		De: @mickewestin56		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 21:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oxygen and differences in temperatures creates condensation, spray foam is airtight ,therefore no condensation]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oxygen and differences in temperatures creates condensation, spray foam is airtight ,therefore no condensation</p>
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		De: @azdarylbrown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 21:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian - informative, albeit ancillary discussion on insulation/supplementary floatation in aluminum boats.  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa_fFQssr4E&quot;&gt;https://youtu.be/Qa_fFQssr4E?si=MJqgoAkwPbQL3bFS&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211; informative, albeit ancillary discussion on insulation/supplementary floatation in aluminum boats.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa_fFQssr4E">https://youtu.be/Qa_fFQssr4E?si=MJqgoAkwPbQL3bFS</a></p>
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		De: @KCR7089		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 20:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First consideration when choosing insulation should always be FIRE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First consideration when choosing insulation should always be FIRE.</p>
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