Oamenii urăsc aceste bărci [Full Tour] Învățarea liniilor

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1. What a great layout. Superb review as always. Keep up the great work!

2. One complaint I read someone make was they do not have a back stay, and because the spreaders are swept making it harder to sail down wind with the main sail. ??? I don't know ?

3. One of the best selling boats in the world so I’d say as usual, someone online hears it sucks and parrots it over and over.

4. Haven't been active in sailing for a few years but here's my 2 cents. This may be a dated opinion. Back in my day the price point on Hunters were considerably lower than other brands. I believe Hunter sold a lot of boats to people who could stretch and afford the boat but just couldn't keep up with maintenance. I also believe they sold a lot of boats to first time owners who just didn't understand the things that needed to be done. This contributed greatly to the "Hunter bad" reputation. I have no problem at all with Hunter and would not hesitate to buy a well-maintained example. Especially the Legend series.

5. I have owned two Hunters, the first a 29.5 that did not sail well and currently a 340 that sails exceptionally well. As Hunters tend to have a lot of windage, the key to Hunter's performance is the keel and rudder configuration. My 340 has a deep 6ft fin and bulb keel and a large deep rudder – she outpoints every other cruising boat in our club, and has won several inter-club races as a result. She does need some wind to move her. She easily manages 6-7 knots in 15 knots of wind across the deck. Above 15 knots of wind, understanding how to reef her is vital, depending on your point of sail. I've won races single handed in 25-40 knot winds, obvious with a generous amount of reefing. She's a comfortable cruising boat with a relatively large aft cabin and a very nice main salon. The galley is certainly adequate, and she is well powered by her Yanmar 3-cyl engine. 2500 RPM will give you 6 knots in relatively flat water. The only annoying thing I've had to overcome is a leak around the upper hatch that took some time to figure out, and she's developed a few leaks associated with the rub-rail and caulking has taken care of those. Would I buy another Hunter, absolutely, but I would look carefully at what's below the waterline.

6. Does it have bow or stern thruster?

7. The asses that knock hunters are production boat owners themselves and are jealous of the space and powerboat amenities onboard. Fact is most boats stay inland or offshore coastal 99% of the time.

8. I've had my 29.5 for nearly 20 years, and I've enjoyed it with my family on Georgian Bay.
   Yes I've had issues with the light construction. Namely the subfloor under the veeberth, water behind the fiberglass encased keel and 5he light spar . Yup I replaced the rig with a Clako spar extrusion designed for the C&C 36. 30% more ridged. Now most wouldn't mess with all of these problems but as a handy tool and die maker I just spent my time and fixed her .
   Was all this Hunter issues?. Can't say that it couldn't or wouldn't have happened to any boat.
   So to the haters I say live and let live. Every boat is a compromise, and a Hunter is not much different to most coastal cruises out there.

9. I don't know about now but Hunter's used to build garbage I wouldn't ever sell one across the ocean or probably anywhere unless they got better they build good looking garbage

10. Great boat and video! I love it!

11. I went from the UK over to the USA in 2016 to buy a boat like I was used to, if I could find one, had one specific boat to look at on arrival. That boat turned out to be a major major Project boat including needing a new engine, so ran away from the thing. I'm used to solid built 1960's and 1970's solid built Bilge Keel boats, and a nix of other types, including Dufour 31's and Sadlers. There was a strange attitude against Hunter Sailboats which caused me to veer away from them, but I happened to come across a few in yards that were up for Sale, so I did a pretty thorough Survey on them (I'm not a qualified Marine Surveyor, am a qualified Civil and Structural Engineer, and have been along during Marine Surveys, and picked up on critical things to check out. Frankly, those Hunters impressed me enough to come close to buying one, but the Balsa cored deck was soggy, and I didn't have enough time on my Visa to get stuck in Sorting it out. They are Nice Sailboats, and there's no getting away from it, and that Boat you did the Walk-through, for my next boat, I'd buy it, and would have no concerns compared to any other boat properly serviced and specced ready for an Ocean Crossing (as long as it is Shallow Draft and Single Rudder, I'd have no concerns about crossing Oceans in one. As usual, even for the heavily built boats of the past, only a fool imho doesn't hide from a Beaufort Force 6 wind Yacht Gale, and if it's a Hunter, the same rule applies. Force 6 plus, and even a heavy long keel boat isn't actually comfortable to be on either. But Production Yachts like Hunter, Dufour, Jeanneau, Bavaria, etc etc, if you have the Sea Room, you can ride out a Force 8 as well. How do I know? Because so many people have already done it. Sure, not advisable to actually seek out such an experience, though some people do it to test themselves more than their boat, but I'm a Cruiser, not a Racer, and I'll do my best to use the right weather windows, and if caught out – get hive to, or make steady progress towards better wind conditions. A Barometer and Weather Radar can help to avoid the worst conditions, as well as use Force 6 Winds to get to Fairer Winds. My 2c anyway. Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 👍⛵️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️

12. As far as production boats go, you cant beat hunter. They are cheap, have really good sail plans, great interiors, and don't have a history of keels or rudders falling off unlike the other big production boat builders like Beneteau or their sister brand Jenneau(although their newer boats don't seems to have these problems). Some of them even have a decent comfort ratio and capsize formula(mostly the older hunter models). Some of the older(90's early 2000s) boats in the 40 foot range make decent budget blue water boats. There are plenty of stories of people crossing oceans in Hunters and i don't see why not, i've never really seen more than a few stories of Hunter boats and keels or rudders coming off. Just comes down to comfort ratio and capsize formula, which is pretty abysmal on some of their newer boats but others are clearly made for ocean crossing, albeit in Hunter's own production boat way.

13. You don't know hatred until you mention Macgregor sailboats.

14. grew up with 34s nd 40-1. my fav mono

15. are beneteau blue water boats for long distance travel?

16. We own a Hunter 380 we absolutely love. I have looked at many different boats and haven't seen anything nicer in the 38 ft range. Our 380 is CE A rated for offshore sailing and would love to take it to the Caribbean. The 460 is 26000 lbs and again CE A rated. Most Hunters have lead keels and hardware and rigging are all top brands, Selden mast, lewmar, shaffer ect. No off brands. I would not hesitate to cross the Atlantic in this 46.

17. Absolutely love love the Hunter 50 CC.

18. The issue is, they have a history of not being built well. I remember a news story about how cleats pulled out at a mooring in rough weather on the West Coast and an owner was killed. Also the issue of flooding cockpits in rough weather. I've been told – by friends that are Hunter owners – that Hunter has beefed up their construction since, but it's not their interiors or room or layout that people have had a problem with over the years.

19. It’s funny. People hate the newer hunters (mainly because of the absence of a back stay and yet ? They sell like cup cakes, at least here in Canada. 🤷‍♂️🤣

20. i had H26 for a few years. 0 complaints. Most people who complain about hunters probably never had one…

21. Absolute luxury. Mine is a 1983 Hunter 34. What sold me, is the port/aft cabin, in just 34.5 feet. Plans to duplicate that after cabin, on the starboard side.

22. They lack snob appeal. As a former Catalina owner, I know that the sailing crowd are a lot of wealthy people with degrees and anything that allows the middle class into their exclusive world is to be shunned.

23. I don't think that if you like or don't like each boat is built for a reason the Hunter is a boat for sailing on the weekend not too far from the coast it's a very good boat the interior is very beautiful I think it is very comfortable you have to buy a boat for the needs you have

24. I really like that boat, can't see any reason to be prejudiced against them. Maybe it's a snobbery thing, getting so much boat for the money?

25. I finished my 10th season on my 1983 Hunter 34. It's accommodating down below and it's considered a great club/phrf racer. We found space for a microwave and installed a new propane stove/oven with 2 10 lb. tanks below the helm seating. We added a swim platform with a ladder and steps as well as davits. She has solar and a wind generator for extended traveling. People are always polite when I tell them it's a Hunter but I know many of them look down on the brand. We sail on Lake Superior and have experienced some of its wrath in terms of weather and waves. The boat handles what the Lake tosses our way with confidence. She is 40 years young and still going strong. I am a proud and happy Hunter Owner!

26. I think some people hate these because they wish they had one

27. Put your money where your mouth is sure there are better boats but you're gonna pay 3 times as much and not get much more…

28. Only a very small percentage of the sailing community ever goes offshore…. Also these bigger newer Hunters are built quite differently than the older ones that created the bad reputation.. Frankly I don't think you can get more Bang for the buck… Seldon Spars Lewmar Ocean winches kevlar bonded construction so forth and so on… Also a lot of times when you buy a used one all of the ball valves and thru haul stuff has been replaced with bronze stuff.. Lastly if you're lake sailing coastal cruising or never have any plans to go offshore pick the lines that appeal to you and the floor plan and creature comfort that suit you best and screw what everyone says…. Unless of course money's no object Then you can proceed to blow everyone out of the water…

29. I have owned a 2010 Legend (Hunter) 33 for nearly 2 years and mostly I like the boat, I have done a fair few upgrades on the boat and still have a few more to do to improve downwind sailing I intend to add a whisker pole next season. My observations are it's pretty well built, and the cabinetry below is as good or better than most of the other mainstream European brands. I have done around 2000 nm around the UK coasts over the last 2 years. All boats have compromises somewhere (unless your budget stretches into Kraken territory!), with the Legend if you think you might need to reef, you probably should have done it already!
    Mine has the regular stack pack sail with a lazy bag, with a shoal keel. I sail short-handed or solo a lot, and sometimes this can be a bit of a pain, as I have gone from literally zero wind to 35 knts (not in the forecast!) inside an hour. Close hauled, or on a reach, its performance is very good and equal or better I would say than most 33-36 ft yachts and I have sailed most of the usual French built stuff – that's where the B & R rig works well, the compromises being when the wind speed hits about 15 knots its time to reef! Downwind, it's not so good, hence the desired upgrade to add a whisker pole next year which I think will help a lot. I like the amount of room down below, she handles rough weather fairly well. Mine has a 19hp Yanmar on a shaft drive, which I do personally prefer to a sail drive, and I think the Yanmar is more robust than a Penta – I am fairly good with motors having been a grease monkey in my earlier days! The upgrades that I think have been really worthwhile are the jib furler, the original Selden was a bit underspecified, so I went for a Harken Ocean Mk1V which I am very happy with, Selden Vang was a solid upgrade too.

30. I bought a Hunter 41DS in Califonia sailed it to Hawaii then to kiribati and back. I sailed it around the Hawaiian islands then down to Amertican Samoa then around Fiji during the pandemic. Then to Vanuatu then Solomon islands. Galatea is handling well with no brakeage or signs of stress. I love her. But really what do i know i press auto pilot and she gets me to perfect waves with no one out.

31. What is a double berth when it's not bunks? Full or queen?

32. I own a Hunter 36 and it is as comfortable as it gets. I don't get the hate

33. 169k for that leaky dumpster fire!

34. I love them

35. People hate on hunters cause they spent a lot on their 54 ft beneteau and they have a friend with a 46 ft hunter that was a lot less money, with better equipment and a better interior

36. We have a 85 Hunter Legend. We spend winters on it. Id like to have this model.

37. I sailed a 1998 310 with in-mast furling up the eastern seaboard and Chesapeake Bay. Fantastic boat for coastal sailing. Very nice cabin and cockpit. I'm looking at getting another when I retire next year.

38. Good inf. Right on opinion, hard to beat for the money.I own a hunter 336 down here in the Dom. Rep.alot of room? Fun boat.

39. I am looking at a Hunter Passage 420, or a 45CC. We would be living on the boat for 5 months a year. Doing coastal cruising and the Bahamas. I don’t understand the hate about Hunters…

40. I loved your introduction. Never thought I’d say that about a YouTube video.

41. I bought a hunter to get away from people that hate.

42. My research for a blue water sailboat over 40ft has me looking seriously at the Hunter design for the fabulous interior design. I also like that most have a shallow draft below 5ft, and when set up right, manage her from the cockpit under most conditions. The conditions vary significantly from owner to owner. I'm curious if I could find a few honest comparisons of her handling compared to others in her class.

43. Don’t just say “Hunter” discuss the deck to hull bond, mast step grid ( or lack thereof), interior wood, rig diameter, mast dimensions, thickness of laminate, bulkhead laminations, bow construction, backing plates for cleats etc. Discuss the boat, not the people who sail on weekends. I agree there is a class of sailors who go out for a few hours but a squall can be a few terrifying and fatal minutes.

44. The only reason Hunter is not on our list is the spade rudder. We have sailed the area we are looking to return to and the lobster pots are everywhere. A skeg on the rudder ads peace of mind. We have discussed many times if a skeg could be added. Then the comfort of a Hunter would put them at the top of our list. Also, just a note on sailing, our marina neighbors and we went sailing one day and we smoked their 36' Hunter with a 26' Chrysler (Hershoff comfort ratio 11+) using the rigging from a 16' Hobie-cat that we bolted on just so we could go out that day. If memory serves we had 2 sails up and a 23' ish foot mast. It was a lot of fun and so exciting the cat got sea sick. 🙂

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