Poți cumpăra un catamaran ieftin? – Ep 218 – Lady K Sailing

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1. Uhh,, galley down is a huge winner in my book! You have guests ,, fire up the BBQ! Or pre cook! I wouldn't,t be into traveling the world but to the Caribbean,, perfect! But I still love the idea of a Tiki!

2. Excellent episode Tim!

   The Prout is a slow, built like a tank, long distance cat that is now a little long in the tooth but still a great boat. The Leopards have so much going for them, mainly to me the lack of saildrives which are a safety concern for long distance voyages but also a great design though some don't like the lower bridge deck. Both Leopards have just about everything going for them but truly all 4 of these boats will make someone very happy no matter where they decide to take them. I have never seen a Manta in person and know next to nothing about them but clearly it has been around long enough to prove itself.

3. $300K Good LORD! Bring on the Wharram.

4. Got a Prout Snowgoose 37 last year. $31,000

5. I gotta say I love your vids! I am currently saving up for my first boat and your videos are helping me keep my eye on the prize

6. Crazy. This comes out the same time Sailing Lady Africa puts there's up for sale.

7. Brilliant

8. I can't even stand to watch this. Anything that is $300,000 is so far out of my reach.

9. Just wondering…is a cat better on low wind days than mono hauls therefore the necessity to turn on the engines would be less. I mean if you have 6kts of wind, would you be still move? Great topic and video as always. You are nailing the lighting and sound! Great job!

10. I've got some cat sailing experience. All that Tim says is true. I had a performance cat ordered and then my stocks took a dump. But in the meantime I overspent on my 'practice boat,' a Hunter Passage 456, center cockpit it was just too good to pass up (and which I just won't shut up about). Here's something I think I've learned: A 40' Jeanneau is a great sailboat, but my 45' center cockpit is very very close to what sailing on a cat is like. (I don't know if it sails better or faster than the Jeanneau, but it maybe about as close to a cat as a non cat can get. If you have $500k definitely get the cat (but don't get a fat condo cat like a Lagoon or Bali, these are very nice hotel suites that float. They resemble sailboats.) A 45' like mine is not a cat, but it's some of the vibe. Cats I've been on: A Seawind 1600 (53' performance) nothing like it. Zoom. A Fontaine Pajot – okay. Steering didn't work. Thanks Dream Charters (never book a Dream Charter). And a St Francis 50' not a performance cat, but very close.
    Galley down works just fine but it's more like a head where you cook in privacy. On the Fontaine Pajot we were all up in the galley and the table preparing dinner, mixing up the salad. Great point. I do all my own cooking; on my 45' mono I like that I can see the big screen TV (because I can't see outside). You won't have that on a galley down in a cat.
    Leopard? I've researched a lot of cats. Short of getting a Performance Cat (dagger boards) I've come to think of Leopards as the gold standard. I wouldn't hesitate to pay $150k more for a Leopard over a Lagoon or Bali or Fontaine Pajot that had exactly the same specs and maybe even prettier cushions.
    And until you've spent some time on a cat the owners (3) cabin versus 4 cabins seem very similar. But on a 4 cabin what you get as soon as you crawl out of the berth is a door. Not a problem, but your cabin view is a door. An owner's hull just feels open and luxurious.
    And those sideways beds up high and the ones that are inline with the hulls? I've spent at least a week in both. About the same. So I wouldn't buy or not buy a boat based on these. That Leopard up berth with the steps? That'd sell me. I can enter my bed on my 45' from the side (like the Leopard, like my bed at home) – it's a plus.

11. Can you do a video on Gemini Cat's? @Lady K Sailing

12. "Cheap" cat for 300k?😲 A Prout Snowgoose 35 for 30k would be a cheap cat, or a Snowgoose 37 for 50k. Catalac 8M and 9M can be cheap, as are some of the Iroquois. For 300k you can even get a Lagoon, which is definitely not a cheap cat.

13. Good topic but I wouldn't tout extra speed as a benefit of those two catamarans over modern monohulls. In fact they will be slower in light breezes.

14. When or are you getting back on the water?

15. thx Tim still on my hughes but loved the vid

16. Buttload of money
    😮
    Loving it!!
    So
    300k
    Is a lot of rental
    Just saying if u dont use that bad boy it seems to b a hole to pour cash into!

17. Nice work as always!⛵️

18. Im at anchorage right now in my monohull guess what is right in the middle of the ancorage taking up all the space swinging erratically on its 2 to 1 chain scope. 😅 IMO cats are very much comfort over form, they are floating condos that just don’t sail that great. Of course every cat owner say theirs is different 😂 you wont see them exploring the poles or going up rivers if its low wind they are motoring if its high winds they are motoring. Another issue nobody talk’s about is the huge open spaces, imagine getting throne about in those living rooms on a storm. I understand why they are popular but i have yet to meet IRL a real sailor that likes them.

19. The question is SHOULD you buy a cheap catamaran? Finding over 18 foot boat launch around the great lakes is hard.

20. When you asked what brand comes to mind when thinking of an inexpensive catamaran, I thought Gemini. I've been trying to find good information as to why they are almost universally ignored.

21. Great video Tim.

22. Bit disappointed with this video, no mention of the lagoon 380 which can be picked up for way below 300k or the Lagoon 39, Fountains Pajot etc. Would love another video done on cats under 300k with more variety and what would be the best cat for single handed sailing.

23. Too funny…..i looked at all three online yesterday, plus a broadblue that looked ok but the leopard 43 was the best. Galley down is a dealbreaker!

24. I could overlook the Prout's kitchen… 😉 But a monohull just feels 'right'.
    After serving on HMAS Rushcutter, big cats scare me, out of sight of land…🤣🤣

25. Just because a catamaran has 4 room’s it shouldn’t be deemed a “charter boat”. Not picking but I don’t understand that logic from most everyone.
    If it has 3 rooms it’s an “owners”
    If it has 5 that’s “cool”
    But if it has 4 bam its a “charter boat”

26. I like a Cat, but not a fat cat there supposed to be light and nimble IMHO. There not a sailboat because they don heal over much like a trike isn't a motorcycle. There still cool but just a different animal and not my thing but to each there own.

27. Going to disagree with you and go with the Prout here. The down galley doesn't bother me and I really like the cutter rig.

28. Clean water Pee water. 😂😂😂😂

29. Lagoons? The 380 or 39 would seem a good fit in this discussion. I've found myself drifting towards either in my cat searches, but what do I know, never had one.

30. I remember your through-hull issue. lmao. You and Candace performed so well during that crisis. You both stepped up, and kept her afloat. Help came along and you accepted it, but had it not you had it in hand. That was a very impressive save and I never said well done, sir. So, well done, Sir! Even better for joking about it a few years later.

31. Love the channel! I think cats all the way around – initial cost, maintenance, marinas that have room for them, travel lifts that will haul them, and insurance – are significantly more expensive. But even if $$$$$$ wasn't a consideration, if you are a lover of sailing, I mean real sailing, like the feel of a performance monohull cutting through the water when all is set just right, cats just don't have it –at least the ones available at the price point you are considering. Not even close.

32. Another couple of brit brands to look into are the Broad blue boats and Rapier 400s …

    Cats are natural for adapting to hybrid power systems and living off grid..on anchor. They are all blue water rated.

33. A galley down arrangement is really good for cabinet and storage space. True, you're not as connected, but if you need some personal space while cooking or cleaning up, having galley down can give you that space. Personally, I'm a galley up girl, but I can see the value in galley down too.

34. Here I am cruising on an IP 40, but I still like looking at your videos. We are in Georgetown presently, enjoying Regatta, and noticing that the Cats are the party boats. We can host a pretty good sundowner party, but nothing like a big Cat. I'd rather be in my IP than any boat at sea, but those darn Cats are so nice once you get there.

35. Considering you can't buy a house for under 800k where i live, 500to600k for a live aboard sounds like a bargain

36. I know this is something that is definitely outside of this channels wheel house, but with all the clear interest out there in cats it would be quite interesting to do a video on “hurricane damaged” or similar cats and roughly what the cost would be to get it right. There seems to be a movement in getting project cats and ppl fixing it up themselves. It would be interesting to see around what it would cost in the end as well as the time it would take just two people. I have my own thoughts on the topic but I’d really like to see yours, as I’m sure many others would as well.

37. You want a massive amount of space? Buy a condo.

38. With the new popularity of the Cats, do you think prices (used ) will come down in 3-5 years?

39. I've been following you some time now, smart. I've been seeing "some" cats, (older & under 30') for about $120, 000 or much less, though may need some TLC / etc. I still want that Catalac 1M, but I'm allowed to dream huh…?

40. So I just watched a 2007 Lagoon 440. Hurricane damaged in Fort Meyer sell on COPART for $67500. Of course it needs work and lots of it. But it was floating. With its value someone got a decent deal IF they can do the work.

41. Cheers

42. I would suggest a 1990's privilege 39 is the best deal in entry cats….by far.

43. I"ve done 14kts on a mono hull, but it was a J105 in great winds in the Pacific.

44. 2 engines, two sets of maintenance, or is it? Most cats run on one engine at a time as the second engine usually only adds about a knot of speed but will end up using twice as much fuel.  If you stick to a maintenance schedule based on 'hours' you will find that you will be working on two engines about the same as a monohull that only has the option of ALWAYS running its ONLY engine.
    I think you may have mentioned 'redundancy'? If one breaks, you have a spare (and twice as many spare parts for that one too)

45. Man always enjoy your videos. Always listen to them while building boats. Your voice would be epic for some nautical audiobooks! I would be in! Start with sailing around the world 😉

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