Catamaranele Lagoon se destramă?! – Ep 229 – Lady K Sailing

21 thoughts on “Catamaranele Lagoon se destramă?! – Ep 229 – Lady K Sailing”

1. I'm shocked that lagoon still have a resale value! Don't people know by now? The cabinets are screwed together with steel screws that rushed immediately. It must be hard to get them insured

2. Perhaps, before "inventing" their catamarans, current designers should ask themselves why the Polynesians tied the structures of their double canoes… 🤣

3. "more than a couple?!", yeah….you can say that……Lagoons are just bricks with masts. not only they are ugly, some of them are utter shit too

4. AAAH Hestia and the Anzac bridge Sydney

5. Its a 'bud ligh't in a great many sailors eyes now , If they fronted up in a honest upfront manner they could have turned it around IN THERE FAVOUR but like the car industry ite run by bean counters & NOT SAILORs , It's looking that way with there newer monos to , Built to a price , Pity because there earlier boats 90s to midle 2000s were as iv found as delivery skipper well found vessels , The 2 cabin versions in particular .

6. I have an issue in the way you reported this issue in regard to context 1) This is not new problem, it has been known for a number of years now and has been reported and commented on in many forums and sailing sites. 2) While you mention Parley Revival as bringing a lot of this to the attention of sailors your failed to mention a critical part of that story, Parley Revival was a substantially damaged and written off L450 in a Hurricane with Colin buying the boat knowing about much of the extensive damage. I firmly believe that there is a extremely strong case to put forward that the bulkheads and other damage was as a result of this incident. 3) It is well documented in Lagoon manuals that damage can be occasioned to the bulkheads due to several reasons, these being over tensioning of the rig, over canvassing of the sails and incorrect lifting when hauling out. From my own investigation it does appear that Lagoon does have a case to answer as well but it is difficult to attribute blame to only bad design when when so many other issues can contribute to this type of incident. Not having a go at you but when commenting on such things I firmly believe that we must look at these things with as much information as possible. Its always an excellent idea to bring such shortcomings or possible shortcomings to peoples notice but one must have the full information and not just a select amount. In regard to amount of L450 affected, I will stand corrected as it may not be up to date but roughly 10 percent of L450s have been identified as having an issue but the reasons not identified clearly.. As you stated quite correctly this is Something that needs to be addressed when looking at these models.

7. The name Lagoon says where you can sail only. It doesn't say ocean like Oceanis etc. 🙂

8. Balanced argument. Nice.

9. you have another vlog on this – show bulkheads on lagoon / seawind / hh / mumby / leopard and the portafino 52 bulkheads and that boat will only flex 1" over its entire 52 foot

10. Lagoon was blaming everyone but them, scam company does not want to own its mistakes. Thank Jesus we are in the epoch of communications so they started to fix their own failures at the production stages and then at the "own your f.uck up" blaming others. Once a company dont want to own its failures just drop them

11. The L440 great boat no bulkhead issues with full height thick bulkheads, the L450 broken bulkhead with half height thick bulkheads and they broke right at the junction where it went to a thin single piece of plywood, dont have to be a navel architect to see that, what I'd like to know is who authorized the construction change of bulkheads in the 450 from the successful 440, i can't see the designer ever drawing it like that, some bean counter in the factory looking to save a $ sounds more like it!

12. It is NOT only the 450 that has issues
    other models also have bulk head issues

13. I literally grew up on a 1999 Catalina 36 Mark two I really enjoyed it my dad passed away when I was fifteen and I'm looking at buying another sailboat right now I'm on the Great Lakes our boat was Whitehall Michigan our first but was a Catalina 27 Morgan I remember the day my dad bought that Catalina 36 part two brand-new I was 7 but I was a kid I used to race those small butterfly sailing boats then when I was in my teens and twenties I moved to the Jays

14. The last boat i would buy is a lagoon

15. I don't think Lagoon did the right thing. Parlay spoke about the "kit" and it sounded more like a patch, than a real fix. Yes the patch "might" make things better but it's not a real fix, IMO. I was also shocked at the flimsiness of the bulkheads! What looks like a half inch plywood with two small support pieces, seems "mickey mouse" on a yacht that is supposed to be rugged enough to go around the world!

16. Those original bulkheads look to thin lagoon skimping during manufacturing process.

17. Having watched all the Parlay Revival videos….being a Marine Surveyor for 20+ years….having built a Cat….when I saw the sloppy tabbing of bulkheads to the hull…sloppy fiberglass work with tons of filler to fill large gaps and bad fitting bulkheads I almost threw my shoe at the screen!!!….no wonder these have been failing , shawdy workmanship and use of excess brittle fillers blew me away….expensive yachts of various makers must be looked at BEHIND the fancy facades that you fall in love with….in most it is shocking just how rough and unfinished they are where you can't see!! So when shopping around look under…behind…many places in the boat….What you can't see is really telling about the boats overall construction…..cheers ….SV Archangel laying Thom's Place AK

18. memo to self … never buy a lagoon … and to be extra safe stay away from beneteaux … thx

19. I wonder, as future catamaran owner, if this issue is driven the used one’s price down…

20. Got to say under 10 grand to fix the problem shouldn't break the bank for 99% of owners

21. I have to agree with a lot of people here, I would be hard pressed to spend many hundreds of thousands of dollars. And be facing MAJOR repairs. Too many other choices out there. Sorry lagoon, you blew it.

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