BAD Sailboats – Ce nu trebuie să cumpărați – Ep 232 – Lady K Sailing

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1. If two helms is better for a cruiser than one, let’s go for three.

2. Very good info on boat buying

3. I bareboat chartered the 3 cabin version of that 42DS for a week around Elba 10 years ago. 5 of us were very comfortable with plenty of room and privacy. Definitely NOT a deck saloon by any definition though. That companionway is a deadly drop in heavy seas for landlubber guests.

4. Trying to scam the buyer.

5. So many red flags on that boat. Don't even need to look at the boat. Anyone that is not willing to get the boat hauled out for an inspection and then also wants MONEY DOWN just for you to look at it is someone you MUST walk away from.

6. I would always buy a Jeanneau 42, but again it depends on the condition. A few of them are sold in ads around the Mediterranean and they are mostly from the charter business, so you will have to change all the beds and pillows.
   And there is no way I would even consider buying it before I see the condition of the keel
   The Mediterranean is deep, but skippers risk anchoring close to the coast and this results in damage. Recently, a sailboat lost its keel because the former renters did not report that they had hit a rock.
   And behind them was a company that used the full force of the wind and from the stress the keel broke until the end, the coast guard had to work together with the company for extracting the ship from the bottom of the sea

7. I am good the everything except the 7.5 ft keel commentary at the end, I have a “performance keel” and have no problem with my depth, every vessel has to pay attention to their vessels depth, I have no comparison envy for shallow keel vessels. FWIW. The best part of this keel is that the grid system that supports it is glassed in with Kevlar when most similar vessels now glue the support grid down. I like what the added depth does, everything has trade offs, north east seasonal Caribbean cruisers sail past the Bahamas most of the time, to USVI or Antigua to start the season.

8. I sure do appreciate your channel! As, I am nearing retirement, and my plans are living in the Caribbean! My plans are to live on board and enjoy the great weather and the good life! Been a subscriber since I found you a year ago! I do plan on living aboard a sailing vessel! I am a seasoned vet, as I race around Lake Michigan every year! Been to Puerto Rico, and I was in love when I landed. I'm about a year and a half, before I reach the starting line, on a body of water, not named Lake Michigan. In 1983, we took a bow first knock down. Talk about violent! I was on a C & C 41. People don't respect Lake Michigan's power! Anyway's great channel!

9. The biggest red flag for me is that it has the word "boat" in the description. Avoid this and you will save TONS of money and headaches.

10. I am not argumentative, but I would bet good money you could come up with different conclusions if you factored in the experience of the captains. I knew a guy who almost sank an Endeavor 37. Let me repeat that, an ENDEAVOR 37!

11. It doesn't even sound seaworthy and the broker's dishonest. Avoid at all cost!

12. In 2014 i was looking to purchase a Farrier F22 trimaran here in Australia. I am in the southern state of Victoria and the boat was in Queensland, a northern state 2000kms away. I ordered the service of a marine survey on the boat. The surveyor rang me to say the boat is a zipper, meaning there was serious delamination between the fiberglass coating and the foam core on all 3 hulls. I have experienced delamination before were a 1cm bubble turned out to be a 1m squared repair. This was a no go for me. I purchase a different one (used the same surveyor) and it is a great boat.

13. I would never buy a french made boat, or german. Cheaply made..

14. You have a huge problem with the French made boats…Probably you don’t like French company who perform leader in the World..?
    Certainly you insult the thousands of owners who enjoy sailing their boat.

15. I hope you can publish another video with this kind of superb content. Your advice is excellent, and it really helps novices like me to remove any rose-tinted glasses.

16. I find it interesting that discussing a cruising boat never covers seaworthiness, strength, safety at sea, proper cruising design, etc. and spend the video talking about everything but.

17. First red flag for me is that broker. I have run across them before. Things just didn’t add up. And it was more than once.

18. Good advice

19. Though I wouldn't touch this boat at any price, it has one of the best interiors for a liveaboard sailboat in this size range that I've seen.
    I'd want a change of clean clothes & shower after spending any amount of time below in her tho. 😢🤢🤮

20. Great video expert knowledge, experience and advice will save you a ton.

21. Don't good boats have paperwork, sales invoices, vat records? Also a builders number deep engraved inside the stern?

22. Having been a broker (and I like to think a fair and honest one), I'd like to add a few counterpoints to the discussion.

    1. Courtesy dictates that a buyer not demand to inspect a boat at a specific time, such as noon on a Saturday, when the seller hopes to be using the boat. Many do! But for the seller to demand a deposit to show a boat is absurd. Keep in mind though, if a buyer wants to sea trial a boat, it is reasonable and customary for a seller's broker to ask for a deposit and purchase agreement subject to sea trial and survey to the sole satisfaction of the buyer.
    2. Is the boat documented? This could clarify some of the issues concerning clear title. For a reasonable fee, a documentation company will investigate. Frequently, banks will require this to write a loan on a boat.
    3. It's important to know that the buyer has every right to conduct whatever unfettered, non-destructive survey processes he wants to assure his satisfaction with the condition of the vessel, but that he does so at his own expense. Normally, the seller is responsible to deliver and operate the boat for the survey. Given the distance the boat would need to be moved to haul it, I would proposed this compromise:
    a. A sales agreement is signed, and the buyer makes the customary 10% deposit to the broker's escrow account. The buyer pays for an in water survey where the boat lies and the seller provides a sea trial with all stakeholders aboard.
    b. If, after any agreed price adjustments that may result from in water survey findings, the buyer increases his deposit from the customary 10% to 20%. The seller then becomes responsible to deliver the vessel to the haul facility at his own expense.
    c. At the end of the out of water survey, the buyer may sign an acceptance of the vessel (with further appropriate price adjustments), or reject the vessel and receive a prompt return of his 20% deposit after the broker has assurance that survey and yard haul out fees have been paid by the buyer. The seller would then be responsible to return the boat to its home port at his sole expense.
    d. As for the condition of the boat, there are big and small issues to be considered here. There is a buyer for (almost) every boat, at an appropriate price. If a buyer wants a boat that is yacht club presentable and comes with an inch thick folder of maintenance history, he should be prepared to pay top dollar. He will not reach an agreement with the seller by comparing that boat to the lowest price sister ship on the market! Many try to.
    4. A broker earns his commission by honestly presenting a boat in a favorable but honest light in the context of the asking price. That often involves tactfully letting the seller know that his boat is not as well found as the he believes and that price reductions may be needed. I believe that in most cases, a buyer gets what he pays for and a seller receives a fair price for a properly surveyed vessel.

23. Captain Tim, you are steaming ahead! Well done.

24. Always be careful with POP Yachts.

25. Ahhhh, maybe $45k "maybe" you'll be at least 6 months on land in a marina to fix it,,, and $50k in parts…
    This is for a younger couple with an online job, or lottery winner and time!!!
    Your not working for the airline and doing this project!!!

26. WOW .. as a self confessed ‘consultant’ you have some very bias opinions that could even be challenged as incorrect. As balance to your opinion for all those watching this video many consider the Jeanneau boats very old fashioned looking and designed, the Beneteau boats are much for stylish and modern. You’re incorrect to say that the equivalent 42ft Beneteau does not have twin helms and the small 40ft Beneteau is close to 14ft wide so much wider that the J42 and as for groceries from dingy to galley, well I’ve owned both and Beneteau winds hands down with a fold down swim platform rather than the narrow high step in the hull of the Jeanneau that the dingy keeps trying to disappear under every time you transfer. It’s my experience that the J will sail a little better and point better but at the expense on the cruising and living we’re the B does a far better job with more space, storage and layout, so for the Caribbean, are you a sail racer or a cruiser although the Beneteaus have wine the Fastnet and the Sydney Hobart. Jeanneau are slowly getting better and finding space with sail performance but it’s my opinion that in todays market the interest is more on the cruising than the hard core sailing, remember, it was Beneteau that bought Jeanneau. Beneteau would be my preferred choice of the two every time.

27. Absolutely essential is to include the steering gear in any assessment. In my estimation more boats are abandoned on passage because of steering gear failure than for any other reason.

28. Great video as always! We just had a similar conversation with a willing buyer about one offer this year. In April there was a buyer willing to buy a 36 ft Beneteau in Menorca (EU, Meds) The seller asked for a deposit for showing the vessel documentation and arranging the visit of the vessel. That was a show-stopper for us. He sent some pictures of the vessel (the vessel was listed on YachtWorld with 6 photos in total). We also noticed that the pictures not matching (like there was a mixture of two boats) Another red flag was that there was no possible direct contact with the seller just the agent.

29. so far your asking for money but haven't gotten to the topic of your video and we are halfway through. Getting through some of the rambling is ok but geeze… I will not even like until the end of the video much less give.

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