Worst Sailboats – Ce să nu cumpere – Ep 254 – Lady K Sailing

41 thoughts on “Worst Sailboats – Ce să nu cumpere – Ep 254 – Lady K Sailing”

1. Don't say Tartan34, Dont Say Tartan34….

2. Great info. Even the old ugly ones are overpriced. I agree to its a proposition to someone with more time than money. I like this vein in general. It would be nice to get close to 100k but it is way easier to get closer to 50k or 30.

3. Hay just I need to say I love your videos, BED'S-BIRTHS. I am doing my research into my future home on the water I can not find much on sleeping on a sailboat. Aft berth looks great but what is the trade off. Big V berth island bed, again looks grate but can you sleep in them at anchor? is this a good idea for a new episode? I have a budget of $120us. Cheers

4. Hunter 410

5. If you haven't done so, how about an episode on the old boats made in and around Taiwan, Japan, Hong Kong etc. Particularly boats like the Choy Lee Clippers, Sea Wolf, Island Traders etc. How are they holding up, who would want one, and so forth.
   Thank You.

6. Agreed we need to keep the older boats of the fleet sailing, $100k is some serious gate-keeping.
   Glad we moved on from MacGregor – I like those things & reckon we need more variety. Kids who grow up with a family MacGregor ARE sailing kids & that's the main thing. Not a lot of Irwins here, they're way too susceptible to sinking after stingray attacks… 😉

7. I owned a MacGregor 65 pilot house, it was my second sailboat and I purchased the boat for $25,000 and the first thing I did was haul it out and do a bottom job. My boat came with the Volvo TAMD41B which I rebuilt myself for around $4,000 in parts and I tuned it for 250hp. I did completely rewired the boat with all the newer used electronics. The boat was all fiberglass construction and it was fast, it was definitely a cross between a race boat and a yacht.

8. I think any boat you buy is both the worst (and the best) option. I had a Columbia 8.7 that had soooo many problems that I fixed most of then virtually gave it away—only to be berated by the next owner for its shortcomings 😮

9. I wouldn't hate on MacGregors… you have to consider a boat for what the need it was designed to fill. A Mac has a very light weight swig keel and will draw less than a foot of draft with it and the motor up. I've sailed mine to Isle Royal in Lake Superior and to the Dry Tortugas in the Florida Keys, all because it could easily be pulled by a low end SUV. You shouldn't compare it to an ocean going boat, that would be like comparing a Cooper Mini to an RV. They're just in different boat categories. If you want to get people into sailing, then a Mac is a great boat to start with!

10. MacGregor makes another sail. I have a 25ft MacGregor not the Power/sail, Lived on it for 4 months bumming around FL and sail it in New England waters. Upgraded to a 37ft Catamaran but still have the Mac. Love that boat. Never liked the power/sail MacGregor

11. Tim, please don't repeat the mistake everyone else makes. MacGregor is NOT a sailboat, it's a sailboat manufacturer. Meaning he has made many models, but when you say "MacGregor" you mean specifically "MacGregor 26M", ignoring all other models.

12. I really love the Center Cockpit layout, mainly due to the extra large aft cabins you get, but I noticed all the major production manufacturers (beneteau, bavaria, etc) stopped making CCs in the mid 2000s. Feels like it fell out of fashion and that 20 years from now we’re only gonna have overly expensive Hallberg-Rassys and Najads.

13. Thanks for the video. I still wish you would use your regular speech pattern…but I still learned something so thanks.

14. Liking my Legend 40.5 more & more every day. ❤

15. A Buckenawful!

16. Would you do a episode about the insurance side of sailing?

17. OK here I go with my buccaneer 270 It’s beachable … Sleeps eight adults comfortably has a full shower pressurized water, 2 foot draft. Oh did I mention the best it’s on the trailer.

18. Iv'e been sailing in the Bahamas on an Irwin 52 for 4 months.
    Hated every second of it, it was a fat bathtub, couldnt sail at all, super rolly in anchorages, shitty manuverability in marinas, leaky AF….yeah dont buy Irwins…

19. How about the fisher 37 pilothouse ketch?

20. Hi Tim, been loving all the videos. I think for all the people who yelled Hunter you should show them what they get for under $100k. There are some great post 1995 36 foot + boats out there. The only people who don't like Hunters are the ones who haven't owned one. My little 29.5 had more room than some other 36 footers.

    Keep up the good work.

21. Awesome work on this channel! Thank you!

22. My local yard has 10 various sail boats that are worthless condition

23. The worst boat is the one you own for sure.we all own that money pit

24. i like your opinions, do you have a video on hull shapes canoe stern scallop transom etc with thought on pro and cons of each, couldn't fond one on your page,

25. No, asides Hunters, try Jeanneaus, Beneteaus and Bavaria’s. End of story

26. The worst boat is the one that no matter who built it- is not properly maintained. Tim you make very good sense. If you build a cheap boat WYSIWYG.

27. That Morgan keeps coming up in searches. Someone go buy that thing.

28. I don't see kids as being potential customers for these. Most of the younger people I talk with want the Euro-style apartments with the IKEA furniture, so go for the Beneteau's and Bavaria's. They watch the YouTube channels that tell them you can buy a junky Beneteau, put in 15 minutes of sweat equity, and have a $17 million yacht. They need boats like this, but I don't think most of them will lower their standards that far.

29. We owned a Morgan 43 and sold it for a Hylas 46. The Morgan was built like a tank but sailed very well. Interior appointments were significantly better than the 41 and a lot sleeker looking on the exterior. I miss that boat.

30. I'd buy loats of 70's/80's boats…..like Tayanas, HR's, everything designes by Bob P etc…..To be honest I'd buy on condition and……if condition justifies it pay 80k and go sailing……In the end I buy a boat for that reason and not!!!!! as an investment. Actually investment buy of a sailboat currently…..pretty dumb advice/idea.

31. Hunter Legend money, hell, that's Kelly Peteson 44 money for a nice one too!

32. As a recovering Macgregor owner, you are correct. The quality of the build has much to be desired and they just don't sail well. All that said, it did meet a need of mine. I had a 6 mile motor to open water through shallow canals and backwater passes. Macgregor was perfect for me but I cannot think of another use for the vessel.

33. When my dad and mom switched from motor boat to sailboats (I was 6), Our 1st sailboat was a Morgan 24 (I was hooked on sailing). It was perfect for learning how to sail. Then several years later, they sold it and bought a Morgan 27 (1st one in Sarasota area). That was a racing boat with a radical new keel design. The decks would cracked and raspberry glue came out.We won a lot of races. After we got tired of racing, they sold her and bought a Morgan 38. That was our 1st cruising boat. Sold her. Then we got real serious. Bought a Bristol 41.1 my dream boat. I love, love, love this boat. Sometimes we would race and won 1st place in our group. In high winds, she sometimes would go faster than haul speed, keeping the rail in the water. I miss her. So, I am on the journey to get off land by 1st repairing/updating up my house to sale it, down size, and then go boat shopping (that is where you Tim will come in) Bristol? Oyster? Island Packet?. P.S. so sorry for the long……. response…Happy Sailing ⛵

34. I’ve heard all the bad about Irwin so they were never on my radar. I ended up with a Bob Perry design double Ender, a Baba 30 but when/if I upgrade I really like the Gulfstar boats. I know someone with a 37 and it’s a sweet boat. I know they make bigger ones as well.

35. Besides bananas,
    Nothing depreciates faster than IKEA boats. Nothing..

36. From episode 130 of Lady K Sailing: ‘You should definitely look at one… if you can find an owner willing to part with theirs… because they love them.’ Quite a positive review of the brand all in all. Certainly no mention of poor construction methods or quality.

    In this episode, on the other hand, you fairly rip them a new one. See-thru fiberglass, poorly mounted safety stanchions, etc.

    So now, I am quite confused. Are Irwin’s good boats, or not? Please enlighten me, Tim!

37. nice

38. I think you missed that Mac 26's are trailerable behind a minivan. This is there real benefit. When Ontario goes into a deep freeze in November you can load your Mac onto it's trailer and be in the keys in 2 days and spend the winter there. There are really few boats with stand up accomodations that can realistically be trailered across the continent behind the daily driver.

39. Truth is different boats for varried needs and budgets.
    The ABSOLUTE WORST way to buy a boat is based on someone elses likes and needs and not figuring out your own likes and needs

40. I lived with my wife and our very young daughter on a Morgan OI36 for 5 years. We sailed it all over So Cal from Point Conception, to every one of the Channel Islands (including special permission to anchor at both San Nicholas and San Clemente Islands) to Coronado Island in Mexico. It was comfortable in all kinds of weather. Didn't really sail all that well, couldn't point, and didn't sail well in So Ca's light winds, but it was always comfortable and we felt safe with our little kid in the huge (for a 36 foot) center cockpit. Don't see them for sale much, but when you do they are really cheap. I don't think they held up all that well over time. We paid $40K for it when we bought it in 1983, and sold it for $45K in 1989.

41. 80's-90's Prindle 18… Ha ha ha!

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