Sfârșitul drumului cu Outremer – Atlantic Crossing partea 3

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1. Good on you both. We always love your toobs and really feel for you over this boat. Good luck getting a cool boat, you so deserve one!

2. What a story! Good luck ahead.

3. That's good for all.
   I need to find another now.

   Long Reach agent was crap too.
   Bunch of clowns.

   Lot of cowboy companies in yachting

4. They wanted you to promote there boat for the boatshow .seems ike a great offer ,thats a shame .

5. Great to see you together for new adventures! Ciao

6. What a dignified, honest, and inspirational explanation. ✌️

7. That system wreaked havoc on the Caymans and Jamaica. Unreal surge with it.

8. Haha I had no idea that was you guys! I would absolutely have come said hello. I was on that big Baltic "Zemi" giving my mate the captain a hand moving her. Sorry if it seemed like we were trying to cut in line, we actually did have a booking and had been bumped three times already! Sorry to hear about the shitty ending to what has been a great chapter to follow. I really enjoyed your comments and observations on sailing a performance cat offshore. Good things lie ahead for you I'm sure.

9. The O’Kelly’s know their stuff. So this is directed at those who comment hastily.
   From my own experience, let me bet on the following (just guessing!) :
   – Moonshot does not belong to Outremer. They would not carry that much dead cost on their books.
   – She most likely belongs to a leasing company, “the Lessor”
   – The “owner” would be an Australian who leases the boat for X years until he takes title.
   – Until the boat enters Australian waters, Sales Tax can be delayed and eventually reduced
   – Any lessor insists on full insurance coverage, for Boat Value and for Liability.
   – Liability insurance costs only about 1’500 USD for the North Atlantic, but this excludes US waters!
   – Liability coverage for US waters comes at a much higher cost, if you can get it.
   – Full insurance for the boat itself is about 1% of value for just European Waters, 2% for the North Atlantic with at most 2 weeks in US waters. (3% for me with unlimited European and US waters, excluding hurricane season).
   – If you want to stay in the Caribbean during the 6 months of hurricane season, you either pay through the nose or go insured. (My quote was: 1% of value, on top of regular insurance premium)
   – Moonshot is reportedly worth at least 2 Million US Dollars, before tax.
   – This means 60’000 USD at least of insurance per year, excluding hurricane season.
   – The above assuming that the boat is “100% Pleasure” (no paid crew, no paying passenger, no sponsorship or promotion income)
   – The insurance company and the lessor will want to see an official skippers’ license.
   – A serious country of registry will want to see an operator’s license from THAT country. Australia?
   – Both often insist on at least three crew members on passages (crossings over 300 NM). Crew of 2 if you show a vast experience, and get prior approval for each crossing. Best if both have a skipper’s license.

   In addition, the “Owner” (lessee) has the privilege of selecting the skipper, with approval needed from the Lessor and the Insurer.
   He would be expecting some compensation for wear and tear, and possibly buying an extension of warranty from the builder.
   He would logically impose limits on where, when and how to navigate.
   He may ask for being temporarily invited onboard at specific times and places, along with his guests.
   All this would be stipulated in the sub-leasing contract between the true owner (Lessor), the Lessee (apparent “owner” in Australia?) and the chosen operator (our favorite sailing couple).

   Finally, Outremer, as the builder, may wish to include clauses about promoting their brand, and safeguarding the boat reputation; but this might be the object of a separate contract.

   All together, many constraints, delays, costs and worries. OK if you are running a business, but not my cup of tea as a strictly “pleasure” sailor.

10. Not surprised at the end result of the “Free Boat” deal. Hope the new direction for the two of goes well! 😊

11. These new performance boats are thoroughbreds and bring their own set of complications. Smart to play it "close to the vest." Come up to Georgetown and sail just for fun in the cruisers regatta and chill in Exuma for a bit. Lots of room on board.19:50

12. Is that the end of ‘mix of genres’’ as type of content from sailing youtubers?
    
    I’m not talking sex here (that segment is already saturated see over-covered), I mean you are regularly contributing to enrich a youtube segment of sailing techniques or safety issues which are often neglected by sailors or worse, ignored by ocean crossing dreamers. You are good at vulgarizing those concepts, which you are sometimes discovering yourself at the same moment, raising questions with humility, and by the way contributing to the reflection and education of sailing community. Safety issues are less glamour content but certainly requiring more preparation to present in videos, with drone views and diagrams… Thanks by the way for your good work.
    
    But I was sad for you and your followers how that interesting journey came to an end. I imagine easily how a shipbuilder may want to protect his brand which is facing many risks with that type of media/marketing experiment, adding to the inherent risks of ocean crossing, with all the benefits and costs at play where the outcome is not guaranteed.
    
    Now…the show must go on. 😉
    
    What’s the type of content coming in the pipeline?
    
    Tourism? Champagne sailing?
    
    Cocooning Nick & Megan ?
    
    ‘’Golden Sneakers Racing‘’? (a touch of humour in a drama/happy ending)

13. You were super lucky to experience an interesting sail. You know why that say, when one door closes another door opens. Look forward to new experiences and opportunities.

14. We are so sad that Outremer could not figure out a way to make this work
    What a huge missed opportunity for them. C'est la vie! Love your attitude and approach to it.
    Wish so much we could have met up. We are sure we will end up in the same port again . Best wishes!

15. So nice to see you back together! 🎊 🎉

16. I’m hoping you post a video of what you learned about performance cats, as well as pros and cons. It would be great if you passed your knowledge on!

17. Obviously this isnt “Housewives of the BBI’s”…… so keeping the details of the arrangement private is very respectable. Thankyou

18. Didn’t want to be their b**ch!

    Good for you.

19. Just guessing…
    Non-Disclosure Agreement – that is no negative comments that could hurt future sales…
    Must have wanted some serious cash in escrow…
    A review of all videos before posting…???
    Am I in the right neighborhood?

20. Outremer started this whole thing with the unveiling and welcome to your surprise, new boat.
    Calling a spade a spade They came into this with open eyes and just wanted to get their boat across the ocean.
    It totally looks bad on Outremer's part.

21. The o'kellys my opinion are one of those couples who think they are in title to free tbings cos they have a youtube channel i recken its there sale pitch they seem like hard work

22. Persevere.

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