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Caracteristica de design a contribuit la scufundarea iahtului? | SY News ep372

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Caracteristica de design a contribuit la scufundarea iahtului? | SY News ep372
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  7. One of the largest sailing ships ever built, the Preußen, had a length of 149mm and the highest mast was 68m. This jacht was 56m long, just over 1/3 of the Preußen, but its mast was 75m. Let sink in the difference. In my opinion this is madness. The fact that we have technology to manage sails exceeding a area of 500m² to 1000m² in good conditions does not mean we should. The forces generated in bad conditions are extreme, so any unforeseen condition has the potential of creating a disaster. The reason that the large sailing ships of the 19th century and early 20th century had many smaller sails was to make the sails manageable for the crew. In my view that should still be a consideration for jacht design: two masts of a reasonable height, sail area divided over a number of sails. That will reduce the risks of foul weather for boat an crew.

  13. As a yachtsman of many years (Oyster 406) I have to say that the skipper of the yacht has serious questions to answer. There is a sister yacht apparently and the owner has also expressed strong doubts about any fault with the boats design and in particular the height of the mast.😊

  15. Heard it had a stinkin swing keel. I wouldn't be on one of those. sail boats need long keels permanently affixed. Size doesn't matter but design does. Had this been a "normal" sail with a long keel you may have gotten knocked down boat would have quickly righted. Did it have sail up? Probably not it was anchored, right? Well if it was anchored did it have that swing keel down where it belonged? Probably not.

  19. Why were all the crew, the ship's owner, and most of the guests woken by the storm and ship's motion, – but the 6 people most involved with the HP court case, – never left their rooms? Whatever was happening was scary enough to muster everyone on deck, – except the HP six. Could the doors to their rooms have jammed shut? Were the 6 bodies found in their rooms?

  33. The height of the mast 78 m to the keel is a problem 10 m retractable to 4….the wind picking up on the mast with no sail can be devastating espacially moored in a qiet side of the med…but the balance of the boat with its keel retracted in very high wind annd apparently a fewhatch left open because we are safe andnot moving….hot day need a bit ofa draft… Are all unfortunate circu stances to this nightmare

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  34. I have been sailing yachts since I was a child and worked as Jim Sherwood’s full time skipper for six years at the end of the sixties into the early seventies. I am a "Yacht Master Ocean" and though I no longer work commercially I still sail whenever I can. My last commercial command was a 76 foot Sloop from 1997 to 2022 ( with some breaks). This yacht was based in Italy and we cruised extensively in the Mediterranean. We were knocked down off Anzio in a line squall in about 1970, and were caught in a similar event in 2015 (or there about) in Volcano; on that night over 200 boats of various sizes were sunk or beached.

    The major point that I wish to make is that there are too many yachts and, in particular, too many large yachts. Yachting is suffering from the same blight as the tourist industry. Too many people in the popular spots.

    Ports and anchorages are congested forcing captains to choose anchorages that would never have been considered safe twenty years ago. Look at the map (chart) and see where the Bayesian was anchored. That is not a sheltered anchorage; it is open to every wind except the south-west, and even that shelter is reduced by the fact the boat was moored a long way out from the coast.

    So why did they anchor there? Because the ports and anchorages that are safe are full. There are also a limited number of ports that can take a yacht of that size.

    So she was forced to anchor in a dangerous position…..

    Now whether or not the boat actually sank through human error or design fault is neither here nor there; SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ANCHORED THERE.

  35. I am not understanding the circumstances of the accident. The vessel was at anchor close to shore during a severe storm? The crew did not put the guests to shore before the storm? Who makes the decisions in the vessel’s organization and when did they ‘check out’ from their responsibilities?

  36. Traditional ocean-going sailing yachts were low profile with minimal windows and hatch openings. There would have been Almost nothing loose inside. These could and did survive being rolled and in the awful extreme. Many sailors have been rescued sitting on the upturned hull. This extraordinary ‘luxury’ design was none of those things. It had huge windage and huge windows and doors/hatches. Was it really a serious ocean-goer even at the best of times? Or was it for sitting in port being admired?

  38. As Skipper myself I do not question the crews conduct but prefer to put my attention to this yatcht design. All the mono hulls should have the abilty to right themselves even with a keel up and all hatches open given they should be positioned amid ship. I once owned a lift keel and I often tested this myself alone at sea in extreme weather. In short all yachts should be able to take 90 degrees without taking water and when the storm force winds end the boat should right. I hope focus is put on the boat builders and not the poor crew and passengers for any blame.

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