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Whoever suggested adding an absurdly tall mast to the ship needs to be held accountable. Even a child could see that was wrong. Why would anyone sensible buy such a flawed vessel?
The boat sank….B F D
As a mariner of many years , the first photos I saw of the boat under way, I mentioned my doubts regarding its stability .
With wind gusts forecast of + 60 kts it was not safe to remain on board. The Owner and Captain make those decisions. Primarily the Owner can overrule the Captain. Under such circumstances it would be a Travesty of Justice to try and lay any blame elsewhere. The Ruling of the Incident is classed as Misadventure primarily on the Owners Head.
If you are not sure – wake the captain. I work with units that make a million dollars worth of product every day. If there is a situation that is not well understood, you find an expert or you shut it down. It's only money. You can't shut down a yacht in the bay so you WAKE THE CAPTAIN. I understand you are trying to take up for a young guy who maybe made a bad call but is otherwise a good fellow. But reinforcing this idea that you don't need to wake up the captain is going to cause other people to die in the future. There is no doubt of that. I have lost respect for you today.
How about some non-paid content for us lamers, not even gonna watch this vid. Show us some 2025 Monaco Boat show content.
Seems it was a accident resulting from a freak storm. Easy to be wise after the event
The 23 year old didn't know not to say that. The wind blew that boat over because of the windage of that mast, a lack of righting moment because the keel was up and a boat that had a 70% diminishing righting moment.
The stability book suggests lowering the keel before bad weather arrives.
I'm quite sure that you could have done the video in less than half of the time, provided you had made a proper script. This is too much uuuuh, too much repetition, not a proper report.
Freak Weather to Blame for killing some very wealth leaders! Sounds to me, like a true act of God! What were they planning after winning a Huge Multi-Billion dollar lawsuit? Very interesting indeed!
Why does no one ever mention that the keel was retractable Kyle and that it was in the raised position? It was a picture of the boat so it could go into shallow or harbors. I had plenty of water. I don’t know why it would’ve been in the up position.
They completely missed the Boy Scout Motto.
Be prepared!
I can't believe anyone is still blaming the crew. It was a poor design/vanity design, combined with a freak weather event.
You cannot blame freak weather boats are meant to be able to deal with freak weather
Huge mast,
Huge keel to cope with it,
Keel was Raised in harbor,
Downburst flattened boat,
With raised keel, could not self-correct from horizontal state fast enough to impede water ingress
Just my guess ,,,
Good morning everyone. The wind, the weather, the crew – all this is hiding the murder of the family of a wonderful man, his companion and loved ones. The world's criminals have long and very well learned to falsify the facts. Unfortunately, even on this, my favorite yachting channel, they defend a point of view convenient for the killers! The investigative materials that are provided to you in advance are falsified, such people and forces are involved in this murder for whom the lives of ordinary people are worth nothing, and you continue to believe this lie. Beysian would have sunk even in a 20 mph wind. One was killed by a car, the other – by the sea and bad weather! I laugh in your face. We got into a storm in the Caribbean Sea on the Perini Navi yacht with a wind speed of 45 to 50 knots, with the centerboard up, standing at anchor, we could not lower the centerboard due to the shallow depth of the marina. Everything went without any problems. Again, we were not anchored at the pier. All the facts you are told are not worth the paper they are written on! Continue to believe this nonsense. Unfortunately, we will never know what really happened on the yacht, how wonderful people died, God rest their souls. As a digression from the yachting topic, I will give an example: many years ago, a person very close to me was found dead, covered in blood and bruises, with two bullet wounds to the chest and head, in a noose, the investigation version is suicide, the case was closed with a note about suicide! The man first beat himself, then shot himself, and then hanged himself, it turns out interesting. Here, of course, it is beautifully done. And the weather was perfect for their dark business. I will not be surprised if in the near future mysterious deaths begin to happen to all members of the crew: from cardiac arrest due to illness to traffic accidents and other accidents. Remember, people, such coincidences do not happen!!! And finally, I will say! Sleep well, dear, beautiful people: Michael and Hannah, Christopher and Nada, Stephen, Jonathan and Judy, Ricardo. May God rest your souls.
The weather reminds me of Albuquerque New Mexico… very localized thunderstorms, often virga. "If you don't like the weather, wait five minutes and it will change".
Vessel sank because it was not designed to cope with the freak conditions encountered – high mast, beam too narrow, ballast insufficient, and air intakes not on centerline only all contributed to the sinking; and none of these factors were under the control of the crew. The only thing the crew could have done differently was lower the keel however it seems they followed the approved standard operating procedure when they did not lower it.
I've said this over and over again!!! why can't you lot actually read this and understand this… the yacht was a death trap from the minute it was built …to have a yacht with an incredibly high-mast and a lifting keel it was totally inevitable under inclement weather conditions it would capsize, and also there was no buoyancy in the craft so when it capsized it sank …for heaven's sake just read this I don't get it. You just come out with ludicrous stuff about the crew being at fault, the yacht was a death trap the minute it was built
Is it true?? : The Yacht Report is no longer what it used to be, starting today, September 13, 2025, it's entering the pay-per-view business.
It's a shame to turn pleasant information into cheap business…
I will come with you. Q Elisabeth always said she loved "her" boat. I will bring tiaras. 1931 ❤❤❤🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
I haven't noticed any comment on anchoring. Altough, there was a good weather at the time of dropping the anchor, according to the marine traffic, it seems like they only deployed about 80m of chain in the 50m depth. This is not even 2:1 ratio. The minimum should be 3:1 and in case of weather worsening they should have dropping much more. I don't know if the boat would withstand that kind of violent weather, but maybe if they had 5:1 the boat could be pointing to the wind for longer time. Honestly, we all sailors sometimes underestimte and drop less chain then we should, but in this case the anchor was holding the boat only with it's gravity, not grip. Otherwise, I agree with extremely tall mast and therefore windage area exposed.
Bottom line: given the height/weight of the mast and the strength of the wind gusts, could anyone or anything have saved the yacht? Even if the most experienced skipper was on the bridge – would the Bayesian have survived?
What is very strange that most yachts in almost every class, right them selves even when pushed over by more than 90 degrees.
Act of nature, sad. Thanks for the report.
I just wonder why there will never be another yacht with a mast that tall and and a normal hull/superstructure.
Thank you you for your very reasonable reporting
Superb shot of the River Mersey, Liverpool and the Floating landing Stage in WWII. After London, Liverpool was the most heavily bombed city in the country. Had the Germans succeeded in knocking out the docks, the main destination of US convoys, defeat might have been inevitable. It was a close-run thing, and the damage was colossal (an ammunition ship being blown up in a dock didn't help). Churchill forbade most reporting so as not to harm national morale.
That's why Liverpool is seldom mentioned, even today, as being one of the Luftwaffe's targets, even though it was blitzed more heavily than anywhere else bar London.
Born in 1943 in Liverpool (next to the airport where planes from the US were reassembled and distributed to bases around the country) I remember the Landing Stage exactly like that in the late 40s and 50s.
I havnt heard anyone other than lawyers say the crew bear any responsibility for the loss of lives and Bayesian. My mistake, the designer and builder of the yacht with the highest mass mast and lowest righting moment of its class did make the first accusation the day after the disaster. Bad luck that extreme weather hit it that night but scandalous it couldnt right itself from a 70 degree list and criminal that passengers couldnt escape once sinking.
I am sure the crew did everything they could under the extreme circumstances but if the retractable keel was all the down we probably would not be discussing this disaster for more than a year.
What could the captain have done if woke earlier if the boat didn't right it self after being knocked down? Sounds like nature was 100% in charge of this.
Seems like investigators are hell bent on finding blame towards the crew? Is it not possible that this was a freak weather event? Or maybe it's more satisfying to blame a human over nature.
I really appreciate the colour you add based on your own experience. Sitting on my comfy couch a half a world away, I really have no idea what it's like to crew one of these yachts.
Honestly love the way you have explained the basics to those who have no idea how sleep deprived crew can be and how they are pushed to the brink – it’s actually absolute bullshit that the crew are pushed to this point and then blamed when they have given everything – actually disgusting
Fix the title.
It is the boat it self that is the problemen.
What they should do is invent an "anemometer" that can measure the wind speed, and convert that to a digital signal, which in turn can be monitored by a device that could automatically signal an alarm to the captain. They did this one time for smoke detecting devices that automatically sense the presence of smoke and trigger an alarm, people got em in the kitchen all over the world. Something to look into next time you build a $25 million dollar boat that might be jeopardized by high wind, "hey what about an automatic alarm device." Just an idea.
Griffiths was posting the incoming storm videos. He didn't think the vessel would sink. But the Baden Powell prepped at 3am an hour earlier and started their engines. So it wasn't minutes. It was an hour delay.
It still seems like the approach taken to retract a keel knowing that there is bad weather forecast would have a major effect on the yachts stability.
I'm not an expert by anymeans the the main mast looks so much bigger than others
Could it be top heavy ?
Why was it not closer to the sore ?
When I was a kid, I learned all about boats with too much top hamper from the one my father built. They take water too easily, they tip too easily, and they stay down in the water. I also sailed plenty of boats without too much weight up high; they don't tip very easily, they come back up from a steep heel, and they're not so hard to right. I don't think I would have taken a job on a boat with a mast that disproportionately tall, I would have looked at it and just gotten a bad feeling and gone looking for another job.
Very very strange that the owner and his business partner were killed with days of each other in two freak accidents.
Someone had very good voodoo dolls!
thank you for seeing and knowing the bigger picture of what it’s like to work in this industry. and thank you for being the only source of info about this terrible tragedy (the Bayesian) that I follow
Downdrafts from thunderstorms can be very violent but localized.
Great non bias reporting. Perhaps these reports should be presented to the board for consideration as they present well. The truth is any vessel at anchor with or without crew should have righted, even with keel up no matter the wind speed unless it were grounded which this yatch did not suffer. This wreck needs taking into water again and tested for righting moments which is easily performed with good holds and a crane too see the Hull integrity. Then we will know!
It is quite bizarre that such vessel spending meets with so little seamanship of owners.
The shipyard that built that death trap , the naval architect , and the captain are guilty.They all knew that it was a death trap just waiting for the right moment…..
The owners?….If they are so clewer to get super rich , then, why they were so stupid to believe that boat without stability will not sink….
As a woman of 80, I love any thing to do with boats, as my father had a little inshore fishing boat, my brother had a boat like the Scottish herring fisherman, he also until his retirement was a member of Caister Lifeboat , Which is purely run on donations, hence the love of the sea. Your video and talks on what is going on in the oceans is absolutely fantastic. It is wonderful to hear, look and read this and know it is not A I which seems to bee taking over a lot more I go onto U Tube. Thank you again for all your work , looking forward to watching more of your videos.❤X
Sweet! Great looks *and* a proud history: Doesn't get any better than that to my mind.