Ce regretăm după ce am cumpărat un iaht nou

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1. You guys are awesome Thank You

2. LFP aren’t a fire risk.

3. Did you consider a portable water maker? Basically a suitcase about £3k and it can hit 40 to 60 litersan hour. Energy intensive like they all are. The downside is you'll only use it at dock not on the move… but no through-hulls to worry about. And cheap.

4. Buying new was #1 mistake

5. Sorry had to stop viewing the video when you said you sticked to AGM. Lifepo4 now they even cost the same and its far superior in every aspect. Rocma also is ALOT better than Delta. Omg. Big no to your suggestions

6. Buying a watermaker from aftermarket can safe you a lot of money as Boatbuilder charge a shit pile of money. Buy a Schenker Zen 100 for 8000 Euro and install by yourself. Best watermaker on the market, 12V and very easy to maintain and run.

7. A cat has weight issues, so all the extra weight from the water maker, heavy batteries and washer / dryer seems problematic. A mono hull can take the weight.

8. Great video. Honest.
   #1 in my mind is the hindsight crew option. That would save so much and probably make some friends for life.
   #2 seawater showers……you get used to it AND that occasional freshwater shower is a real bonus.
   #3 related to #2….EU15K for a water maker is ridiculous, which you both obv thought as well. It's given you time to look at options and I'm sure your choice will be awesome.
   #4 AGM batteries, no brainer given what you already had. Lithium will continue to get cheaper and better and you'll be glad of your use of AGM when the point to upgrade comes…because you will have saved a shed load of cash.
   Cheers from Thailand and all the best on your journey.

9. My biggest regret? Not buying a boat … 🙁

10. Biggest regret was the lifeboat. Had it onboard for a 3yr circumnav 2002- 05 and never used it once! Kept it serviced and everything. Great content love the honesty.

11. Thanks for the honesty and transparency. We all go through a learning curve so dont be too hard on yourself.
    And yes… plenty of experienced people out there willing to help… often for free just to get additional miles in… get on a boat they want to try… get to know people… or just for the fun of it… me included 😉
    Continued fair winds!!!!

12. AGMs are great until they aren't. After about 3-5yrs all of a sudden they'll drop voltage. Be prepared for that. Watermakers are great but can be temperamental – be sure you go with a Spectra or similar and avoid companies that force you go use their own consumables or make it difficult to source local ones. It'll keep your washing machine happy also. Biggest regret is getting a sailboat instead of a trawler with a traction kite. One suggestion: make sure you understand navigation charts and the symbols!

13. Nice video. One thing though it's not Watts per hour it's just Watts. The "per hour" is already included.

14. Thanks for your great video! From personal experience with 16 months and 8000 miles with a Delta, it will be a problem when you get into mud or sea grass. I had a 55 on my Leopard 38 and after much success with sandy bottoms, the Delta failed me countless times when I moved to muddy regions. Your anchor is one of the most critical components, please upgrade before you go anywhere with mud. You don’t want to end up in a storm with mud or grass bottom with that Delta, it will not hold. I’m new to your channel, keep up the great work!

15. No water maker ooops

16. We went for AGM, we 18 months later, we are replacing them with Lithium. Expensive mistake.

17. Happy happy joy joy, expencive perfect white teeths, not interested, thanks anyway.

18. All righty then, you asked for it. I'm a sailor, presently finishing my third Pacific crossing, on our way to Thailand again, I built this boat, spent 40 k, it's a 9 meter, folding trimaran made in foam and carbon fiber. I spend on average, including everything, about 400 dollars a year to maintain, because thats all it takes when you are smart about it. In my humble opinion you two, to use your word, are seriously "boughjy". Like having a dingy with an outboard. I'm 62, and have no problem paddling 2 miles in my inflatable kayack to get to town, then the 2 miles back. Not that those sort of distances are common, but the exercise is the best part. What are you in such a hurry for?The modern dingy is a bad joke, such a bunch of headaches are guaranteed. Give it to someone who is handicapped. OMG, then there's the whole water maker nonsense. I had one for 4 years, never really needed it, and there a hassle to maintain. It's easy to collect rain in most parts of the world, or pick it up in various places, like local streams or waterfalls. Learn to conserve. I should continue to berate you both for being such spoiled wimps, but I've got to go put some more sail up. I'm gonna put out a video just on the off chance that it will save some poor soul the mistake of buying a boat like yours. Seriously, a Catamaran?

19. Lithium equals resale value that’s the real argument the future is value the past is savings

20. Just saw your YouTube & can agree on quite a few points.
    After a few years of sailing full time as live-aboards I’ll make these comments.
    Best decisions we made:
    We bought a watermaker. (It was a Rainman which is hi capacity , semi portable & importantly very simple in operation) That allowed us to have a smaller water tank capacity & a second fuel tank. Both work in unison. It keeps you away from the charter boat Friday mayhem firstly but also gives you safe water and the ability to fill up with extra fuel where it is cheap.
    We did an Atlantic cross & this worked well.
    A Honda Generator. Super reliable and a great back up AC power. Not as convenient as an inbuilt Diesel geny but so much cheaper, but if you have the money then either is good.
    A good espresso machine if you are a coffee drinker (Pavoni) saved us $$$ 😄
    A good & slightly oversized anchor & 100 metres of chain. I don’t usually need it, but in big winds it’s a relief to have it.

    Things I would have done differently:
    I would have gone for a professionally installed Lithium batteries with a full BMS, invertor and solar package (after delivery) & all the blue tooth.
    I’d have bought an additional good quality portable freezer. Much more efficient & easy to replace.
    I’m not sure I agree with large outboards. We’ve sailed with a Honda 2.3 because the larger motors were just too difficult to attach in a swell.
    If you have room for a washing machine then fantastic!
    Hope this helps.

21. How do you find not being protected from the elements with such an exposed home station? Would you change that if you had a chance to have it on top so your viewpoint is higher up?

22. Not having radar and a bath thruster most necessary on a 43
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23. don't ask the boat manufacturer – they will charge you an arm and a leg. diy

24. Let me get the crying towel out wnile the rest us have to go to work

25. I love my bank of AGM batteries!

    I would never go back to electronic controls, constant problems that once failed in the middle of a parade. This was during my dark years on a power boat. Since coming back to sail, I would never switch out the standard controls.

26. Thanks for the great video. I love your practical orientation of living within your means. Your resolve or advice from your Bay of Biscay Fiasco is exactly right. My biggest regret is having some major work done on the boat while I was not there. We had a keel on our catamaran that developed a leak into the keel (not the boat) and so the wood was rotted and we needed to remove the keel, make a mold, build and then install a keel. First we got completely shafted by bad workmanship while we were away. Secondly, after I arrived on site, fired the first guy and got a very skilled new crew in, there was still a hundred questions they had and I realized that I could never expect major work to be done while I was away. I go further now. Basically, no work gets done while I'm not at the boat. Simply impossible to be sure it is done right without being there.

27. I loved that you stuck with AGMs. Lith can make sense but it's getting overhyped and the disadvantages and hushed. Keep using common sense, thumbs up.

28. Interesting experience that you should've done it yourselves – I keep having that even as a landlubber trying to hire professionals for a lot of jobs just to find out that I had to fix so many things after they're gone with that effort I could have done it myself the way I wanted and I would feel safe.

29. lithium is only a real fire risk if lithium ion…for boats the safe way is to use lithium phosphate…it is not a risk of flashfire like ion

30. If you are happy with AGM then by all means stick with them. I just want to correct one misconception. LiFePO4 or Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are not prone to fire, in fact they are actually safer than AGM batteries. The Lithium you are talking about is Lithium Ion and indeed, those you don't want on your boat, absolutely never. I changed from AGM to LiFePO4 and I love them. They give us a lot more available power (discharge to 20 % instead of 50 %), but then again, we have a power hungry boat with all the appliances we have onboard. And that is one of the things that AGM batteries don't like at all. They can draw low amperages for a long time, but they definitely don't like huge draws, the voltage will drop quickly, causing problems in your electrical system.

    If you ever make the change to go to LFP then make sure your whole system is one brand. My whole system is Victron and that is for a reason…………it is made to work together, it is almost plug and play, which makes installation so much easier. Yes you can go with all kinds of knock of brands, but in the end you will pay much more. Nobody knows how to install it, it will fail if installed improperly and the cheap Chinese LFP batteries are cheap for a reason, the quality is usually pretty poor. How did I save money on the Victron (bought it at half price). I went to the biggest distributor of Victron which is CombiNoord in the Netherlands. Bought it through their website (bootmania.nl), so I had wholesale prices and then had it shipped to Turkey (arranged that myself), so no need to pay VAT.

    As for the anchor, I fully agree. It is not about the Rocna, Delta or CQR, anchoring is all about compensating the wind- and current forces with your chain and anchor. So having a heavier anchor than advertised and a heavier chain is going to do much more for you than any type of anchor. The people who claim that you should always have a Rocna probably don't know how to anchor properly and therefore they totally rely on the holding power of the anchor. And in reality you should basically rely on the weight of your chain. I have explained that on different channels where people also say that you need a certain type of anchor.

    Another correction are the electronic throttles. I have them on my current boat and I have never had any failure in the almost 6 years that we have this boat. We live on our boat, just like you, so we depend on them as well. Usually failures occur when people have been installing it themselves or they have had them installed by people who had no clue what they were doing. If they are installed properly they will function fine.

    Not installing a watermaker was indeed a huge mistake, but also have to say that charging 15.500 euro for one is a complete rip off. If you have not decided which brand to use give this company a call, I have one of their watermakers onboard, you can install it yourself. This is their website https://www.watermaker.de/en/ and as a tip, don't go for the 12 V version, take the 220 V version, it will work much better. Only negative part is that you will need a lot of power to run the watermaker, so that 1500 W of solar is not really going to cut it. And that means drawing it from your battery or from the generator. I have 3.2 Kwp of solar onboard and only in absolute perfect conditions can I run the watermaker completely off the solar. Most of the times however it will also draw from the batteries, but since I have a large LiFePO4 bank I can do that without a problem. So you will need to manage your water very well and need to have a discipline to make water every day for 1 or max 2 hours. That way you will top off your tanks, don't drain the batteries and save the life of your membranes.
    But when you then also want to install a washing machine you are slowly getting up to the power hungry boat that we have and that will ensure your batteries won't be able to handle it. Our washing machine is a Candy Aquamatic, which also has a short program and does not use too much water nor electricity. On top of that……..they don't break the bank and this brand is widely used in the Med.
    We also have a small dish washer, which actually saves water (max 8 ltr for washing all your dishes instead of keeping the tab open all the time).
    Next thing we did was install a lot of led ights all around our boat, not for making the boat look beautiful, but to make it visibel at night, so that others will see us in an anchorage. So many boats have no lights at all (not even an anchor light) and for anyone coming in at night that is a huge risk. We light up like a christmas tree, but at least everyone can see us, nobody will slam into us at night, that gives not only peace of mind, it will also save you a ton of money when damage occurs.

    A decision we took just 2 years ago was to get rid of our 15 Hp Honda outboard. Yes it is nice to be able to race everywhere, but it also means you will need to carry a lot of flammable gasoline onboard and most islands (at least in the Med) don't have a fuel station right next to the waterfront. So that meant carrying jerrycans in the heat of the day.
    We sold that Honda and went for a Mercury Avator 7.5. It has a 1 Kw battery, which we can charge through our solar panels. You still have quite a good range, but obviously you cannot wake board behind it. And if we are too far from a city………then we will just drop closer for the day, see the city and then move to a different anchorage, but that may have happened only once or twice.
    A benefit from having an electric outboard is that they don't make noise and don't get stolen so easily. Without the battery or the charger they are completely useless to anyone. The total weight, incl battery, is not even 25 kg and without the battery it weighs around 17 kg, easy to carry.

    What is our biggest regret ?

    Not buying a bigger boat 😀
    Storage is always going to be a problem since you carry a lot of provisions, spareparts, maintenance stuff and tools, and at a certain time, especially when you have guests, you will be sleeping in a storage room. If we are alone onboard we use the guest cabin as storage, but as soon as someone gets onboard we need to empty that room and that then comes in our cabin.
    Another regret ?
    Having a boat with way too much stainless steel and teak. Teak is a nightmare in the Med, gets way too hot, you can't walk on it when it is in the sun and the maintenance is quite extensive. Same goes for stainless steel. You will keep polishing and polishing, your whole life, not my idea of fun.

31. The problem with the AGM is they won’t last. You will be replacing those before they are 3 years old. Your solar panels are not special, all large solar panels have internal diodes that do this shading thing. Also don’t quote peak performance but show us the yield per day with the graph from the MPPT having the panels so low will seriously reduce overall performance.

32. Our 10 hp two stroke weighs 27 kg.

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