BOOM DE MORT pe barca cu pânze PLATINO distruge NZ Yachting

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1. Watch stories of sailors Lost at Sea https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmISw2WoaEPywmMnvQ3aJo-c1YiwJao4h

2. Simple answer here is that NZ is proposing unneeded regulation. It is the responsibility of the boat operator to operate their craft safely. I agree with recommendations and guidelines, but anything more infringes on freedom.

3. Surprised a boat of that size and expense had a traveller in front of wheel . I have a old S&S and my main sheet is set up hi with its own winch . Well out of the way .

4. oh lord no please donmediumt limit the access to the most amazing freedom out there

5. The open oceans are the final frontier for nanny states and Marxist Globalism.

6. LETS SEE WHO IS GETTING PAID to create and administer the education, training, manuals, or more likely software for the same, then look to find connections between them (or their family/ cronies) and those who passed this regulation. THE COMMUNISTS/LEFTISTS always have a PRETEXT to interfere with FREEDOM, and LIBERTY. This seems like PURE PRETEXT.

7. This just sounds like whiney conservative crud. Sorry if you aren't, but that is what it sounds like. Dude had an off-spec traveler assembly. Was it factory installed? Professionally installed? Self-installed? I suspect the latter. This opens the owner to liability for the deaths. Let's see the FEA that he did on the off-spec load-bearing assembly. I suspect that he may not have even done FEA. Would the boat manufacturer have even given enough engineering data to him to perform FEA? I doubt it, as that could well be considered trade secrets. I find their new rules you describe unoffensive, anyone on blue water should have the basic training. All boats and captains should put together a safety manual, ever do cmm level 4? I have, BFD, at least everyone can go to the book for the boat policies and standing orders. Everyone should have a major inspection before going blue-water, familiarity breeds laziness, having a third party inspect can catch things missed by owner, captain, and crew. How much does a SAR operation cost? That is taxpayer money. I support NZ on this. They aren't being unreasonable. Oh, and you as an American should be aware that USCG can send you home if they board and inspect and find deficiencies as any American sets out blue-water. They don't want to spend hundreds of thousands to millions to rescue each dumbass if they don't have to.

8. It's the same everywhere. Governments want to regulate your life completely. It seems no longer exceptable for some, that people take risks on their own responsibility. They hunt for zero fatalities, even if you have to sit on your couch your whole life. But that's only a slow and awful death too.

9. My recollection is the Platino inquiry found the problem was initially caused by faulty workmanship to the the hydraulic steering, which was not appropriately bled and therefore caused the auto pilot to lose calibration and to continually circle. The preventer was also a problem in that it was rigged mid-boom and tied to the deck near the chainplates, rather than from the end of the boom to the bow, which would have allowed a more orderly management of the repeated gybes caused by the steering fault. None of the changes the NZ govt made following the tragedy would have prevented it. But I would have thought doing something about faulty workmanship might have been a good idea. The presenter is quite correct to raise the questions he has about this matter. I personally know dozens of cruising sailors who now simply avoid NZ, notwithstanding the requirements don’t apply to foreign yachts, simply because of the attitude of the NZ bureaucracy to yacht safety.

10. Some people have been sailing for 40+ years without a qualification. Common sense is very important.
    Thank goodness I'll never go to NZ.

11. I want to know when governments decided that they need to be the overlords of free people across the globe?
    We decide what risks we want to take or not take and it's our lives not theirs.
    Why do they get to decide what is an acceptable risk?
    When is enough enough and when will people realize they no longer have freedom but merely the illusion of it?

12. You say that "Offshore sailing is dangerous" & "storms occur every 4 to 5 days in the area (Tonga, S. Pacific & it is difficult for the most experienced crews". Then why is a Sea Safety Class & a Safety Manual such an issue with you? Yes, over governance & the Nanny State are to be avoided, yet making proficient offshore sailing more safe, sailors more aware & basically putting, what should be USUAL practice anyway, into legislation, should not be criticised! Sounds to me that this is about your particular business model being affected, nothing more.

13. We all read the report. As a yank you are not subject to the cat 1 regs when leaving NZ. And as a kiwi sailor I dont think it appropriate that you pontificate on something that doesn’t really concern you.

14. omg, listening to this guy is hard. can't imaging being on a voyage with him – could end up wishing i was on the Platino !

15. Government over reach

16. Go head and laugh but… sooner than later we will have to ask the governments when can we go to the bathroom, don't hide the real intentions of more regulations = $ with horrible & unfortunate tragedies

17. Moot point. New Zealanders and Australians can now no longer leave their countries unless they are part of the ruling class or a celebrity.

18. The mantra of totalitarian bureaucrats everywhere, never, never let a tragedy go to waste. Expand your power and influence every chance you get.

    Offshore is an inherently dangerous place. So it will remain, intentions of the timid and soft be damned. The reason that offshore is so immensely rewarding is because the margin for stupid is incredibility narrow.

19. Hey Slow Boat Sailing, what are some marinas in the New Orleans area where I can dock a 32'LOA boat? By the way, I'm from Morgan City and live in Baton Rouge and I wouldn't mind meeting you at some point.

20. I failed the admissions test for entry into all US law schools. They asked me my father's name and I was able to answer, so I was disqualified and thus I'm not an attorney. Having said that, I fail to see how NZ could legally mandate any construction or operational requirements on non-NZ flagged vessels. Applying the ubiquitous "reasonable person" standard I can understand and accept reasonable safety requirements for operation in NZ waters such as PFD's, flares, ad nauseam.

    But much beyond that is incomprehensible to me. What if they decided to mandate radar? Or how much Cipro and morphine one has to have in one's medical kit? I'm quite certain that the NZ government doesn't need or want my input but they should tread lightly. Destroying their own tourism industry, much less Tonga's, is a distinct possibility if they let unknowledgeable, aquatically ignorant bureaucrats run wild with new regulations.

21. You are making the same arguments GM Auto was making in the 1960s over seat belt regulations. "Government overreach, burden on drivers, will raise the price of cars and damage the industry, etc…

22. Hi I am a total newbie to sailing but I do have lots of engineering experience.
    Has the new registrations affected you guys much if at all?
    In the UK the RYA have such regs.
    If I want to sail from where I am or any where I must have a day skipper license, ok ok its not just for day sailing.
    Also as I understand it to hire or to charter any yatch in Europe you must have a minimum of a RYA day skipper license. With out it you will not be able to hire or charter any vessel.
    I am not sure what the new ish regs are but could it been be to make sure that all sailing boats are sea worthy?
    If there was an inspection of the traveller it might have highlighted that the position of the traveller it self was in a dangerous position, and this mught have averted a disaster that happened.
    Yeh a 1 tone boom is not going to be stopped if it starts to move like that, an inspection of the boom would have highlighted that fact and then maybe a need for a secondary backup system could have saved or even stopped this from happening.
    I am not saying it would have stopped the disaster from happening.
    I am saying it COULD have stopped the events from happening.
    By having such tight regs on new builds, refit and refits should not affect New Zealand sailing boat industry or sailing, infact I would say it raises the safety rating of the New Zealands new sail boat builds, refit/refits and refitting, and sailing in New Zealand as a hole.
    I know this might be of topic but there is a reason for it so please bear with me.
    In the uk to drive a car on the road every car must have a yearly check to make sure the car is road worthy and the car driver must have a valid driving licence to drive a car in the Uk.
    I am not sure what the new ish regs are but could it been be to make sure that all sailing boats are sea worthy? And that the crew know what there doing?
    I think this raises the standards of New Zealand sailboat industry and all round sailing to a higher standards.
    So has this rased the standards and has it affected you guys in any way.
    It been 3 yeers since this video was put out there.
    Happy sailing guys 🙂

23. T h a t. W a s. R e a l l y. S l o w
    I think I fell asleep two or three times…

24. Too much regulation. I do agree with the lifejackets and lifelines, even inshore. Naval architects and yacht designers spend months or years of research designing the yacht, and some fool always thinks he knows better. Sailing is an extreme sport considering people drown in swimming pools. But large yachts over 50' maybe should be regulated due to size, like the weight of the boom as you say. Offshore is no longer NZs responsibility barr the humanitarian aspect.

25. “You can’t fix stupid “. I love that saying.
    Every time there is a tragic accident the government feels the need to regulate something so the public can believe that their government is doing their job.
    But if the boat had an inspection before departure why didn’t the inspector note the boom was not attached properly.
    Even so, mandating a boat to do a bunch of extra safety stuff on top of what already exists just to make the politicians look good.
    At the end of the day it has always been the sole responsibility of the captain to insure the safety of his boat and crew. This is a maritime law.
    the captain is the only one held responsible
    That’s why the captain always goes down with the ship, it’s better than facing an inquiry 🧐
    Safety should be the most important thing on a captain’s mind.
    But even the most seasoned captain can find his ship in distress.
    As far as wearing a life vest, No one wears a vest. When I’m cruising I throw out a 100 meter drag line with a float on the end with a horn inside. If you fall over swim really fast to the drag line grab on.
    Ether pull yourself back to the boat or slide down the rope to the float then you can detach the float open it remove the inflatable vest and remove the small air horn and blow it to let the boat know you have fallen overboard.
    More people should use these

26. At the beginning of this video, I thought this was gonna be an OTT rant by an opinionated person. BUT!
    The traveller modification was clearly unwise, and it was just unfortunate that the situation was beyond the control of even the most experienced crew. But it is, what it is. We take risks in life by choice, sometimes we lose. No need for yet another a law change.
    I have lived in NZ for many years, it is potentially a wonderful country. However, in the last 30 years NZ has become the Politically Correct, and weird policy capital of the world. Knee jerk reactions to any significant event have resulted in many draconian, ill advised, regulations, that are now law. It applies to all areas of life, not just sailing. Now that, is a rant. 🙂

27. New Zealand Maritime is not called the Petticote Brigade for nothing, females with BOT 2nd mates who have very little experience do not wont to work at sea and cannot obtain harbour board job, hence a NZ government job, Maritime NZ is the looser, this department COE ex real estate agent

28. How many people die from getting hit by rigging, my guess is very few. Shit happens sail on, always remember the Pequod did cabin boy Pip cry when the entire rigging crushed him to death no was their new whaling laws made hell no just ask the widows of New Bedford Amen

29. NZ gov over reaching? Nah…

30. Jacinda Arden is a NWO fascist puppet, expect a genocide

31. No, the Government should not get involved in anything other than not being seen or heard, My reason is that when they don't they have a proven track record of incompetents.

32. Bigger government is always better. Especially for tyrants.
    Couldn’t be that sailing comes with well known inherent dangers. Welcomed by free peoples

33. World economic forum sounds like to me I just got a stick their fucking noses and fucking everything don't they

34. I guess boating is a high risk activity, you accept the risk when you step aboard. Nature can throw amazing tantrums and man and vessel are fallible. Condolences to the family of those lost in this incident, however they were doing what they loved, what a way to go.. Fair winds to their further journey.

35. Governments that make useless laws.? What else is new? Stop voting left wing.

36. Always wear a lifepreverter on deck.Waves don't care ,trips on rope happens. Maybe alcohol . Trail a 100 ft. Rope. Was the guy overboard knocked out ? Should have thrown floats out to mark an area. So sad and preventable .
    THINK people ! Bless the family's for their loss.

37. Its just another excuse to regulate the living shit out of a system that's already over regulated to begin with. Like ever thing else communism likes to reach its tentacles as far as possible until our systems become so broken their they cannot function properly anymore. This sort of shit drives me to no end. That's all I see these days is regulate, regulate, and regulate, than tax, tax, tax and tax some more. Its just one fuking scheme after another, fuking blood thirsty leaches that is all that they are. freaking bastards. Sorry for the rant but these crooks are never sadisfied nothing but greedy slimballs..

38. Does this also apply to foreign boats visiting NZ? This would be really stupid for the tourism of the hole south pacific ocean.

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