120.000 USD? Barcă cu pânze de croazieră pe care nu ar trebui să o cumpărați! Ep 198 Lady K Sailing

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1. Prices on boats listed in the Caribbean can be deceptive. First, they are likely to have been in a charter fleet at some point and have tons of use under their belts, meaning that rig, mechanicals, electricals, etc. are nearing the end of their useful life unless they've been replaced. Second, they typically have not had U.S. or Canadian duty paid, so if you want to bring them here for more than just a visit, you'll owe 20% to title it here. Good rule of thumb is to double the price of a Caribbean based boat to get it comparable with a non-charter version of the same boat that is able to be titled in the U.S. or Canada.

2. Cheers to you. ..

3. If going with a Hunter I'd forgo the B&R rig, save a few bucks and pick up a few feet with a 42 Passage. If fair weather ocean crossings weren't in the projections and island hopping was the end goal then the B&R rig with the 420 Passage would be my Hunter of choice. People will complain that there is no proper sea berth, but come one…that's gonna be like 1% of your cruising time. Hell, there are even a 45/450 or two right around this $120k price point. Let the naysayers keep these perfectly fine boats affordable.

   Love the layout of the Catalina 380, but you can get the same aft stateroom style cabin but with dual helms in the cockpit with the 400 mkii. I'd actually place the 400 mkii above the 42 on my list.

4. Thank you! Two of these are on our list too (393 & 380) for when we upgrade from the little Ericson 29 to sail south.

5. There's a Macgregor 65 for sale in Queensland Australia Au$ 265K '95 model

6. Macgregor boat in Merlin was listed last year on Kijiji.

7. I know I've told you before. I was looking at Oysters and Hylas. There were from the early to mid '90s and about $300k. Their engines had over 10k-12k hours. Once I walked on a Hunter, I was sold. 12-15 years newer. In near bristol condition. Engine hours under 1k. & Priced at about $125k. I probably wouldn't sail one across the Indian Ocean, but I'm not going there. I day sail and do a few weeks a year on Florida's Gulf Coast.

8. Oceanis 393, but be aware many older Bene's had iron keels (not sure about 393) which require regular FULL strip and re-coat (especially in salt water) . If neglected rust will cause big problems.

9. Even though I've got my mind made up for when I get ready to step up to a cruising boat. I really do enjoy seeing what others have to offer.

10. The Bene 50 gets me every time , Theres a 2 cabin version rare but wow ,

11. Sorry about your computer man.
    Great video man.

12. That traverse aft berth is useless underway. That is what the magazine "Sailing" said about a Hunter with a traverse aft berth.

13. The Catalina is a Winnebago! Lol

14. Almost in this price range an Island Packet 350

15. The MacGregor might be interesting to own in a 3 way partnership as it is a long boat.

16. surreal looking boat with surreally clean interior in a surreal location close to your house? That's the Universe manifesting something for you. I'd negotiate with the owner.

17. Your Hunter boat is my complete opposite of my ideal boat. Its a floating caravan of low quality build. One man's meat is another man's poison. Just horrible

18. Awesome episode Chris!

19. We did just about the exact math as you one our new boat just a lower price point. Sugare scoop, owner's cabin 1996 or newer but 45k USD. We ended up with a 2000 Hunter 340 and love it (you had the 336 in your video series and they are the same hill for the most part.). We are in New Brunswick Canada where we also take the masts off and the B&R was the only down side. Have to have a good throwing arm or go up in the chare to get the strap on the upper spreader to lift it off.

20. Hi Tim, buy the Hunter (only slightly biased🙂). I don't find the B&R rig to be that big of an issue. We still race very competitively against similar sized boats.

21. You forget about the fact that some of your boats listed have not paid VAT taxes.

22. You're right. I won't buy any of those boats you featured. Your focus is never on the quality of the build, or seaworthiness but rather on sugar scoop transoms and the size of the nav table. It's as if you are shopping for a condo.
    These boats are fine for afternoon sails but not long distance blue water cruising. You never mention the hull to deck joint or if the keel is moulded in or bolted on. Is it solid glass construction, or cored, and if cored with what materials? Or God forbid a chopper gun sprayed method was used. These issues seem of no interest to you, but they are critical is choosing a blue water boat.
    Construction is where the money is spent and yet you never focus on it. There is a reason a Swan, Bristol, Little Harbor, Hallberg-Rassey, Shannon or a Hans Christian hold their value over the years. They were built right and if probably maintained are as safe as the day they were launched. There is also a reason why a 7 year old Hunter or Benateau have lost much of their value; they were built cheaply and now are worn out.
    Be honest with your viewers and address these issues. They will be better informed, for it.

23. Great options!

24. Nice episode. You have good taste and we will follow your lead.

25. Frist I like boats under 40 for easy boat handling along manageable cost of owner ship.

26. I'm watching this video in my Benateau 393 2 cabin boat. Agree with your assessment and I also have the Yanmar engine that was not the one it came with.
    Great video!

27. Do you provide broker service to help the ignorant find the right boat?

28. My wife and I were looking into full time live aboard at some point and sail around the Caribbean. I've been looking into Ketch boats, but I am somewhat dubious about buying a boat more than 25 years old, which most are.

29. I own a MacGregor 26x and I've really enjoyed it. I understand that the MacGregor 65 was built to win races off of California, and apparently it did. But those were "down wind" races and the 65 it can't point well at all. Even though I'm a MacGregor owner and fan, I can't bring myself to warm up to these extremely narrow 65's. I've stood beside them in the marinas, but haven't been aboard one. They're nice enough looking on the water, but the interior pictures look terrible. : (

30. Tim suggestion what about video's taxes / duty on import of boats and another one on insurance headaches and how to prevent them.

31. OK Tim, it's past time I commented on your terrific channel. I follow close to 20 sailing vlogs. When I came back from a month-long coast-to-coast road trip recently, your channel was the one I binged-watched first (which surprised me a bit since I really like Captain Q, Millennium Falcon, and others). We are in violent agreement on these boats and how why they meet our needs. My favorite is the Bene 393 for the reasons you mentioned, plus the Pullman berth and forward head set-up (I like the Hunter 41 for the same reasons). Always got a kick out of the way you express yourself (and it doesn't hurt that your look and style remind me of a great old friend of mine). Your series on buying boats is genius. My only nitpick would be that as you went up in price point, you presented bigger and bigger boats when you could have mixed in a newer boat or one with special qualities beyond size. Thanks so much and I look forward to many more vlogs, whether they be about opining on boats or adventures on the water.

32. We love what you do. A boat without a skeg hung rudder and bolted keels is not the safest boat out there. Safety is the most important– Period.

33. 👍

34. Yo! Hi Lady K, not sure if you covered this yet, but can you make a vid on your thoughts catamarans?

35. On the 2001 Benateau 50, did you say $50k worth of work just to start?

36. Doesnt sound like your looking for a small boat. More of a medium boat.

37. Lol!! I'm from Merlin….

38. Great episode. I'd take the Hunter. The galley and owners cabin are what sells me, but I'm after comfort, not performance. Fast sailing, slow sailing – it's still sailing. Any of these – at those prices (dream prices compared to what we see in BC) – would allow it to easily be converted to electric drive when the diesel starts to cause issues. My bet is you buy the 50 footer. 🙂

39. Boats too big and too much money, 35 & 60k preferred.

40. Good commentary and insight but could not finished as I always back out when confronted with a 15 second non-skippable ad.

41. The reason to have a jib halyard lead to the cockpit is so that if the sail needs to be doused due to failure of the furler the halyard can be controlled by the skipper while the mates douses the sail.

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