Nu cumpărați un pachet de insulă – Plăci cu lanț! – Episodul 224 – Lady K Sailing

36 thoughts on “Nu cumpărați un pachet de insulă – Plăci cu lanț! – Episodul 224 – Lady K Sailing”

1. Watching this and my recent episodes, I am SERIOUSLY wishing I had a teleprompter. If anyone wants to be super generous and help take Lady K Sailing to the next level, the cheapest option seems to be the D T2 Teleprompter for a little over $100 and it would be AMAZING!!! https://www.amazon.ca/hz/wishlist/ls/HGZDOPX6ZVUZ?ref_=wl_share

2. Used Aircraft Sales are no different. As technology changed and things aged "We" learned to be smarter about important aspects. Thx LK

3. Sailing project Atticus changed all theirs , good info for potential purchasers, Jordan is pretty handy though

4. Disingenuous, irresponsible, click bait. Shame on you!

5. Hi, I've been watching your videos for some time, and I'm curious, you've been often bringing up Island Packet as a good offshore option, but you've never spoken about Pacific Seacraft.
   I get that you give the comfort part a high importance, and IP is clearly more spacious, but considering they are both US builders of very high reputations, similarly priced on the used market, any other reason for PS to be overlooked?

6. Excluding the chainplate problem (move them outboard) – the thing I prefer about the IPs for extended cruising is their full keels – sooner or later most cruisers hit something – and the grids of the Beneteau/Jeanneau type of boats prove VERY vulnerable in this regard. Also, the weight of the IPs may make them slower and less nimble than the Beneteau's, however, the IP's comfort motion at sea is far better and so is its Capsize Rating – it is just a safer boat if things get nasty in the Indian Ocean. The real problem is COST, though one may retrieve some of that big difference when selling the boat at some point in the future.

7. $18k doesn't seem terrible given the price of IP even older ones in good condition. The 316 chainplates on a 90s era IP will likely outlive the boat and the owner. Obviously it is something you need to account for in your budget and it makes older IP which are already on the pricey side even more pricey but seems a no brainer to include it with other safety and quality of life upgrades if you plan to sail around the world.

8. I delivered a packet cat… unbelievable unsafe on any sea

9. Steve and Marcy Rhodes?

10. I’m curious on what your plans are after watching your sail down south Videos and most of the buyer guides. What are you looking at doing? Are you fixing your boat up and going to hit the big blue down south again? Or are you looking to sell and get something different for the next big adventure. Cheers from … land locked alberta… I’ve been itching to get a boat but I’m deciding if the west is better or go the Great Lakes, or go back east and get one then go down south.

11. @08:19 On 304: "…susceptible to corrosion….in particular an oxygen deprived environment…"
    Well, don't be fooled. A tiny bit less, but the same goes for 316!🤔
    Part of the problem may be that the 304 is not (properly) passivated.🤓 (@08:14 could well be the case)
    Something that can be repeated over the years if necessary. But laminated in… alas.🤷‍♂
    Also covering it in laminate with the through-deck leaking seawater through due to improper caulking and/or bad caulk (in hindsight) is a recipe for disaster.😱
    @10:52 "… since the switch…not a singular premature failure…" First, those boats had less time to develop the problem. 2nd, The quality of the caulk has increased dramatically. 3rd Were the same dimensions used? 🧐

12. If you can't service it…it will fail.

13. Mark, what is the failure rate of island chainplates from pre 90?

14. I recently bought a 1995 Catalina Morgan and the thought entered my mind because the chanplates are hidden. We did get it to 11 knots on our passage to Ventura Ca. So I think it passed the strength test but I still wonder.🤔

15. Very solid advice. The external comment is what I was waiting for. Get better access for inspection, safety on the side decks for crew and possibly better geometry.

16. Hi Tim (from the South China Sea! a day out of Subic Bay. Stick that pin in your fan map.) That $18,000 number is interesting. In many cases it might be a "Well it's time to sell the boat" number. Not so much, 'let's dump this on the next owner,' but just the last straw in a fading sailing career (age mostly, divorce, kids grown up…) as in, Sure $18k is doable…. but what'll the next $18k be? Factored in buying such a boat isn't being burned. If the potential owner is aware it's just a factor. (How many great boats were purchased as 'needs work,' or as salvage and the new owner(s) had the sweat equity to turn a problem into a boat they might not have been able to afford. I can immediately think of Expedition Evans, David Shih, Parlay Revival, Sailing Trieteia, there's a long list. Just these four YouTubers wound up with amazing boats mostly for sweat equity. Two Lagoons! a Beneteau and a 'real' boat an Allberg, but now all solid.)
    I think the two factors are 1. What will have to be done? and what will it cost? but critically 2. Who's going to do the work? Is this something we can DIY or do we need professionals? And is there anyone in our area? And when can they do it?

17. A machine shop will do that for a fraction of the price. 316 will still get crevice corrosion, a lot of people are switching to titanium as it doesn't suffer from this.

18. I'm sorry, anyone else have sound problems? 😢

19. 304L really isn't a different grade of stainless, it's just a lower carbon version made for welding. Most stainless steels, including 316, have a weldable "L" version. As noted, 316 is a good choice, but to complete the "good, better, best" list, you have Duplex stainless and Titanium. Of course price increases as you move up.

20. Did anyone buy it already? I will! Let me know plz 😁

21. The Cruisernet crowd went over this a few years back. Replace the chainplates with Titanium ones, expensive yes, ~$10Kfor a small one, but NO corrosion. Then you can give the damned boat to the grandchildren.

22. Hello, I follow your channel and in general your info is quite correct. However, the story you told about the availability of A4 or 316 stainless doesn’t make sence. I have a Dufour 35 from 1975 and EVERY steel part is 316 or A4 graded, even the bolts and al the parts that support the mast or the rigging are. So the fact that Island Packet didn’t use this steel is 100% their own responsibility…

23. That was awesome information. Thank you.

24. Love the new channel..

25. https://youtu.be/oykp4AS9hbA Good info, I always wonder who does excellent Refitting.

26. No comment 😅

27. I purchased my 1990 Island Packet in 2018. Yes I knew the chainplates needed to be replaced with 316L and the factory had guys at the marina replacing the chainplates that week. No problem, and she is basically just like a brand new boat, other than all the upgraded electronics. There are few other brands I would consider.

28. Hope everyone watches the whole video for its great info! Any IP before the year 2000ish should get new chainplates AND new water and holding tanks. Many have already had these fixes/updates/upgrades done and the listing usually says so. We chose not to deal with that at all, because we could do so budget-wise. For a lower-budget option, and older IP is an awesome choice if you make sure the plates and tanks are done. ANY make/model with interior plates requires maintenance regularly (bedding). We absolutely LOVE our 2005 Island Packet 370 and are very often the only ones out on the water because she takes heavy wind like a boss, when that same wind keeps the Beneteaus at the dock. The IP is incredibly rock solid, which I'll take over winning races any day. We chartered a Beneteau in the Caribbean and were laughing at how early we had to reef when the wind speed was increasing. If you want a cheap boat that can't handle heavy wind and with interiors of particle board and veneer, buy a Beneteau. You can still have fun sailing it!

29. Get an Amel! They are built like a brick s……..e, but not heavy due to clever build process.

30. Funny I’m looking at 27ft ISland packet.

31. The boats being sold overseas has no bearing on them being capable ocean boats they are loaded onto ships and sent overseas when they are new

32. Just replace them don't bother even doing an inspection just factor the cost of a whole set of new chain plates into the purchase price or dont buy one of these older boats

33. Tim,

    Island Packet has/had been offering FREE 316L Chain Plates for their older vessels since 2000.
    Anyone who hasn't taken advantage of that is just lazy. All you had to do was provide the Hull # and proof of ownership and pre pay shipping.

34. Hey Tim thanks for another great one. I’love to see your opinion about dufour yachts I have a 86 4800 I did some research but did not find much I kfound out dufour was pioner in reinforced fiber glass grb to prevent osmosis but not much more about the construction quality and robustness can this be a good challenge for another episode of lady k? I hope so specially for your uk and Europe viewers fair winds I will check and probably subscribe your other channel i love history and beeing portuguese of course I love the golgen age of sailing. Fair winds mate

35. You are correct about the chain plates. We had a guy come into our yacht club with broken chain plates…broke at deck level from " out of sight" The boat was "play to live sanblas". Talk to the owner….we put chain plates on outer hull. We did them all. He still sails it. Also told him to put companionway doors in as well when at sea. He later got in a storm…boat did well and I got an email. A green one rolled into the cockpit and he had his doors in…no issue, it drained…
    The new chain plates never failed. Those were my idea.

36. We have a joke among us that the Island Packet is always the last boat to come into the marina. They look great though!

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