Portavioanele sunt nave de război masive care pot găzdui mii de membri ai echipajului. Acești marinari petrec o cantitate semnificativă de timp la bordul portavioanelor, dar nici măcar nu pot explora toate zonele pe un portavion. Doar unui număr mic de persoane li se permite accesul la cabina de pilotaj, hangar și fantail în timp ce se desfășoară operațiuni de rutină, deoarece aceste zone sunt atât de haotice și periculoase. Nivelurile superioare ale insulei sunt suficient de sigure, dar din cauza zonei restricționate și a operațiunilor sensibile, nu puteți avea un număr mare de oameni care intră și ies deodată pe insulă. Dacă slujba unui marinar îi cere să lucreze sub punte, este posibil să nu vadă soarele timp de câteva săptămâni. Puntea de zbor este accesibilă în afara operațiunilor de zbor și atunci toată lumea poate primi o gură de aer proaspăt dacă este nevoie. Regiunile specifice ale portavionului sunt interzise anumitor marinari din diverse motive. În secțiunile restricționate se află o zonă de linie roșie cu o linie reală „nu traversați” pictată complet în jurul traseului care duce la ea. Marinarii au nevoie de permisiunea sau de un motiv bun pentru a trece de această linie. Marinii și membrii forței MAA a navelor, care sunt responsabili de menținerea securității, sunt staționați pe fiecare transportator. Dacă o zonă este încălcată, ei vor da un răspuns puternic și direct. La bordul navei, aceste zone restricționate sunt locuri de muncă sigure, cu uși de înaltă securitate cu #aircraftcarrier #usnavy #sailors
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Motive pentru care marinarii US Navy nu explorează niciodată spațiile pe un portavion
Everyone will have a different experience of how free they were on the ship. It really depends on who is running things and what the ship is doing. What is your experience exploring the ship? Was this possible ❓💙
Which carrier compartments are open or restricted to Navy pilots & where do they work when not flying?
MAA's are Master-at-Arms…
This is a Navy Rate as well…You might say a police force on a ship. Larger ships have a brig/jail onboard…
Chuck in Michigan
U.S. Navy Retired
USS John F Kennedy
Carrier Sailor
I served on the Independence CV62 from 70-73. As boatswain mate, I had access to the forecastle, sponsons 1&3 (refueling rigs), bridge as BMOW and Quaterdeck.
Always walked through the hanger bays, and was DCPO for 1st Division. Even got to walk under the ship when it was in dry dock!
Flew on and off the Indy as well. Great experience!
Nuc spaces only for Nuc's.
Save you five minutes. They don't need to. They can't,they are usually to busy working eating shittin or sleeping.
Main reason is they got no business to be anywhere they don't work or live.
I was in the Navy in the 80's. I was in a squadron as a AME. I did 3 years of sea duty on the USS Nimitz (CVN68). When I was in Navy they let almost anyone on flight deck during flight operations as long as they were properly wearing PPE. And Newbies had to be under supervision of someone who worked up there regularly. When flight operations were over then anyone could go up there and walk around. The hangar Bay was never restricted except during nuke drill, then not even us guys who worked in hangar Bay could go in there.
I really don't think things have changed thzt much to restrict people. Those Carriers are people's home so they just can't control that space.
Never was stationed on a Carrier. But I had the run of my ship. Being an HT and doing repairs, Fire party and standing security watch I could go anywhere I wanted. Sure magazines and store rooms were locked. But when needed they would get opened for access to do my job. When we deployed with Marines and equipment on board, they always posted a guard on the hatches leading to our Marine cargo holds. They had standing orders to allow ships crew access to do their job. Mine and all my divisions names were on a list granting us free run of the holds.
The correct spelling is "hangar".
I spent all of my 13+yrs in the Aux Navy, as a Snipe in "A"gang we went into just about every space on the ship.
On the smaller vessels that I served on we got to "cross train" in other departments, on the YTB I served on as Chief Engineer the Snipes were responsible for handling the stern lines.
Short Answer: You never know who you gonna walk in on fucking.
Most people don’t understand show security clearances work. You can have a To Secret clearance and have access to nothing. Access is granted based strictly on need to know. If you have know legitimate need to know, no access. And curiosity does not count.
I found if you have buddies in other departments you can go in with them.Once they got used to seeing you in there they wouldn't mind you being there. I worked top-sided for 4 yrs I had buddies all over the ship I would go everywhere as long as my pal's were there on duty or we were just passing thru. But there were times and some places you just can't go no matter what but very few this is back in mid 70's it has probably changed by now.
Sounds like nothing has changed over the centuries. Going to sea is going to jail with a chance of drowning.
I don't know where you get this but…, when I was on USS Ranger CV-61 I went all over the damn thing where ever there was no certain access. From the shaft alley to the signal bridge, form the chain lockers to the jet shop on the fantail. EVERYWHERE. Now CVIC, CIC, the SAMM Spaces…, NO.
This is definitely the opposite of a submarine. We were expected to know everything about the boat and had to qualify as proof.
You don't know what you're talking about.
You can go exploring quite a bit.. sure you should be invited into others work spaces but even as an Engineer on a conventional carrier I was free to go all kinds of places… they even made the command check-in an adventure to make you get around the ship… they put our writers for the ships news paper on the O-GOD level yes the highest point on the ship before a man aloft chit was required and wanted check in to occur schedule permitting underway just to get you to see it… we had gyms in the forecastle and above the fantail as well as exercise equipment in numerous places to encourage you to look around… FOD walk downs were encouraged ALL-HANDS events to just get you to participate and see the boat at the water from somewhere new…. I had been into so many spaces from Aux Con both bridges, vultures down top of the but except the masts and down to the bilges.. we checked in DC for gas masks several decks under the fantail to elevator, catapult, and Trap engines. Store rooms on the 7th deck way up in the bow section to over the screws and in the angle deck…. Been to the diesels and all over… Heck if you want Surface warfare pin you are going to have to see and study all this stuff anyway… Even made it to the land of OZ one day, been to Air traffic control and combat while under operations…. Most who do not explore the ship it is because they don’t want to… Been to O country and even the COs Office/Stateroom.. Only place I never made it was the Magazines and Marine Storage ( we had a Mar Det permanently attached being Forward deployed… May not have made most of the ready rooms but tracking down several people I did go in a few… Carriers Rock!
I'm exploring for the simple fact being familiar with all parts of the ship may save my life.
Within the limits of security restrictions, I went many places on CVN-71 '87-91. Vulture's row was a popular destination to watch flight ops. Being a nuc EM I had access to shaft alleys, machinery and reactor rooms, etc. Several of those were off limits to non-engineering or reactor department ratings.
So it s kind of funny for me, was on Nimitz 85-89 I was a Nuc assigned to safety department and was a damage control instructor. I went places during safety inspection that some didn’t know existed. Found a lot of places that people setup as private areas. Still maybe only got to about 75%.
This is nonsense. I explored more than half of my ship, CVN 75, both while at sea and in port. I just walked with confidence and nobody ever questioned me.
They will never find you.
I knew a guy that was stationed on a carrier. He said there are ghettos way below decks in areas that have only one way in or out and are very remote, like where the screw shafts exit the ship. He said you will be at the very least shot with a grease gun if you went exploring there. And not just a dab, big splotches.
I spent two years on a carrier. With 12 hours on and 12 hours off schedules, you have little or no reason to venture through the other compartments. Moreover, the ship is such as dangerous place, you avoid the off limits areas in order not to get hurt or killed. I was lucky enough to be assigned as the XO's Orderly. I got to shadow the XO on his daily rounds throughout the ship. Once you seen one compartment, you seen them all.
Nah I been all over that baby and yeah never ask a sailor directions. My experience was as a trades men in dry dock and port side
There was an informal economy on the ship. There were enterprising individuals who would rent out video tapes, loan sharks at 100% interests, barbers, poets (love letter writers), Mess Specialist who would pass on extra pizza trays and doughnuts from he officer's mess, and sailors who take up your duty section for cash. We even had a guy who would post personal ads at the Australian newspapers for sailors seeking companionship in Perth and sell the response letters to other sailors for $10 each. With a lot of saved up cash on-board, there's a captive marketplace.
Come at me, and you're going away with missing teeth.
When my ship (USS Kitty Hawk) returned from a Nam deployment for refit in 71, I was temporally assigned to the fire watch division. Our job was to follow welders with a fire extinguisher. Got to see a lot of the ship, including the massive voids. It was the most skate job I had in the Navy.
I saw a couple of green shirts with VFA-137 the Kestrels. I was in VFA-137 many many years ago.
EM3 aboard the John S. McCain (DDG-56) …best two years of my life. We were free to roam the ship as we pleased, the only off-limits areas were CIC, Nixie room, Forward Sonar Dome, Forward and Aft Armories and the Bridge. Everywhere else, while open to the crew, was left alone unless you worked in that space. Great example: Battery Storage. Though it was open to crew, and a great alternative route into the ship, most people left it alone. During my years aboard I think I and another EM3 were the only ones who went there…the other guy to help me with something, and myself because I owned that space.
During my adventures around the ship, mostly because I just got off mid-watch and was bored, I did find some neat places no one really went to all that much. Spaces that only got cleaned during XOs happy hour and our yearly inspections.
Non-stop errors. Thumb down.
I spent 4 years on the Enterprise. I explored the ship, from the reactor rooms, to the flight deck and island.
As a hull technician I went wherever some division needed shit fixed. Which was every division.
Without hull techs shit stays broken
Were the Engineering Spaces accessible on a Bird Farm, either conventional or nuclear? Closest I got to a carrier was the Yorktown at Patriots Point in Charleston, SC. Can't imagine life on a carrier, and this is coming from a sailor who went to sea on ship that sank itself on purpose!!!
On my submarine (an SSN), the only restricted areas were the Reactor Compartment (nukes only), the Radio Room, and the Battery Compartment. I was only able to get into Radio for repairs and to check out the electrical panels as an EM, but had "Sparks" accompany me. Top Secret area!
When the non-nukes were in the Engineering Spaces, they were told to let us know they were there. If they heard something over the 2MC (engineroom PA system) they didn't recognize, we told them to look at one of us. If we jumped, they were to head back forward immediately. If we didn't, they could be calm.
The Engineering Spaces were all-business and a person could get burned by hot metal or hurt by rotating machinery.
A trekkie joins the navy: "Ah shit, I'm a red-shirt!" 1:25
was a crew member on the USS Enterprise CVAN65 in 72and 73. we worked very long hours plus watches and replenishment rigs especially during combat operations in Vietnam. We didn't have much if any free time. what free time we had was usually spent eating,showering, and sleeping! most of the time you were lucky to get 4 hours of sleep.
at sea it was 7 days a week! But it was still the most memorable and rewarding of my seven years in the Navy! ( five years was sea duty)
Go Navy! Dl Neal BM2
We can not confirm or deny the existence of nuclear weapons aboard our ships!
I served aboard the Kennedy CV-67 in 89-89 and spent a couple of months TAD as a supply runner. I saw more of the ship than most of the ship's crew and definitely more than the airwing guys. I saw storage lockers all over the ship while I was picking up parts from tiny nylon nuts to heavy brass tail hooks. Some were guarded with controlled access and some were dark, remote and rarely accessed. Some were well below the waterline and had ghost stories attached to them like guys committing suicide in there and not being found until they were reported missing and an all-hands-muster was performed. I also worked the on aircraft in the hanger deck and the flight deck. Great fun