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POȚI AVEA ÎNCREDE într-un antreprenor de șantier naval? LECȚII ÎNVĂȚATE! I Ep. 64
No you can't trust them really is the honest truth. You came back from lovely hols to find that out the hard way unfortunately. I find the only way to know you have a good job is to do it yourself. In all honesty your keel needed to be ground back followed by a rust converter and primer before anti foul. Once she's back in the water though rusting will slow up and she'll be fine until next lift out next year!
How can anyone do a job without some sense of pride in what they do? I think that people who do such appallingly shoddy work need to be named.
I think the answer is no you can’t trust them, you literally have to micro manage to make sure the job gets done right or you’ll end up having to redo the work. We are having to pay $7k to have work redone that should have been done right in the first place.
Bahamas is calling !
Answer: no you can never trust (un-vetted) boatyard contractors ever. Be polite, but transact all project detail in writing so there is no argument…well there will be argument but it helps you do better in said argument… Live by this phrase "if it isn't in writing, it never happened" Inspect everything they do… why not you need to learn. You can get good boatyard work if you watch the process throughout… good learning anyway…and correct or call "time-out" if it is going poorly. Individual contractors can be slightly better because the job = their reputation but in times when they are busy you still are better off micromanaging.
If you need a recommendation for hull and topsides care I can recommend an excellent company. A Father and Son outfit. They're so professional, take such care and pride in their work. Unfortunately, they're not the cheapest around but like most things you get what you pay for. If someone's fairly cheap and almost readily available it's not a very good indicationn. We had to wait two months for our guys as they were solidly booked. Re the clogging of the outlet pipe, apparently it's caused by a combination of urine and sea Walter. We had to replace one that was in the same state on a previous boat, that was after beating it on the ground for ages trying to break up the crustation and finally giving up.
Love the bit of SA life / impressions mixed in there ❤ can’t believe you painted in your good jeans 😮😅
For planning to cruise the world long term and unless you have bottomless pockets, you really need to be doing the simple, non technical work like antifouling and polishing the boat yourself. This will save you a lot of money and ensure the work is done to your satisfaction.
That sucks about your contractors. We own a small construction company here in the US (we don't want to do construction anymore). When we first started our business all of our jobs were just fixing others 1/2 A$$ work. Never half A$$ anything whole A$$ something (Ron Swanson). There is an attitude with some contractors that good enough is good enough. Oh, my wife did not think the shark comment was funny….I did. 🦈
After applying antifaul the boat has to go in the water in max 48h after that it will lose its properties.
What can I say thats not already been said, I felt for you it certainly wasn't what you wanted to see on your return. On a positive note having all the seacocks replaced was definitely a job well done along with the 'P' bracket. I'm guessing your probable in the water and you've moved on from this disappointment, so it must be hard to now re-visit it again on youtube.It will be interesting to hear your future plans, if you will be cruising the Brittany coast?
£800 quid 😢😢 the keel needs shot blasting then treating,then epoxied and then Antifouled to be done right. I’d would have expected that from my 800 quid.
Ok, on your plugged head discharge tube. Watch Emily and Clark's Adventures "Avoid Crappy Situations Aboard" video and all will become clear. Spoiler urine + sea water = concrete. (they tell you how to avoid it)
Great seeing Umhlanga my home town. Looks like you were also in St Lucia and Hluhluwe ❤🇿🇦
A bottem job in North Carolina US. cost about $ 1500.00. That is sanding old paint and re painting bottem paint .
I got screwed by a contractor who was to sand and refinish my yeah decks also recalk all seems ,,I was away he sent photos looked. Good untill I got there they only filled a few seams then just threw a coat of cetol without sanding ,,,problem was I had already paid him ,, lesson learned don’t pay untill you can see the job ,,cost 6 thousand dollars had to be all redone
Some people you just need to be around when job's like that need doing. Or if your not going on holiday do it yourself 😊. I prefer to do these things myself. 🙂
I am very sorry to see that on your boat. We have just done our antifouling, awful job, but at least we know what we needed to do and are sure that we did it the best way we could. And we have only ourselves to blame, but we are not a professionals after all! Shame you have to fix things after the so-called professionals.
From Durbs and downtime in Natal….back to Cornwall would be tough. With your tube following, can you claim back part of the cost of the substandard work ? If they're in a Premier marina yard, they need good reviews…Edward
My super reliable keel painting process is first take the keel back to metal – a needle gun is best for this. Paint all bare metal with Fertan rust converter, Fare any deep rust pits with international watertite epoxy paste, then paint the keel with hammerite red oxide paint. Next paint the keel with International Promocon primer. Then two coats of your favourite anti-foul. You will have no rust at all for several years. On subsequent haul outs just paint any breakthrough rust with Fertan red oxide and primocon. If you want a more permanent but expensive job you can epoxy the whole keel after stripping it back to bare metal and painting it with Fertan.
I obviously don't want to add to your problems but I was concerned how vulnerable the diesel pipe looked as it appears to be unsupported across the stern gland especially with the shut off tap in the middle and the risk of putting pressure on the fitting or bending the soft copper pipe turning it on and off. Like I said I dont want to add to your worries but I felt I should bring it to your attention and maybe seek the thoughts of others or an engineer, it maybe not as bad as it looks in reality 🤞
If they had done a good job you would have got a bargain .
I just had my motorhome polished. One man turned up at 8am and was done by 12.30 £500
Yes I knew price before the work but did not know I was getting 3.5 hrs work for the money. Not great either.
But yes nobody does a good job these days . I always except it to go wrong and am never surprised it didn't.
It is likely the keel needed to be sanded back and a new barrier coat applied – perhaps a bit of fairing compound then the bottom paint. If the bottom paint does not have a good base to stick to it will fall off. It would have been quite a few more hours of work and some additional products.
Your experience is not Unusual but also not confined to boatyards, house builders, RV repairs and any out sourced work. You need to be sure you specify what you want done . Looks like you had good work done with the thru hulls. The hull topsides Prehaps they needed a little extra work , did you ask for a coat of wax too? That will blend out the flat and shiny. Also gelcoat will fade and chalk over time and ‘power compounding’ will not be able to polish that up, it will require some wet sanding as well . Did contractor have permission to do the extra work or have your contact info on holiday to ask permission? It might have been quite costly.
Re the keel, did you ask for the keel to be scraped down fully to solid foundation and or bare metal , epoxy coated , then repainted ? or was it scrape loose stuff and anti-foul?
Did you put epoxy over the bare rusty iron keel you found? I don’t think you had time do , you will have issues going forward. Unfortunately with a 4 week window of time this was your opportunity to get a proper job done on the underwater areas if that’s what you wanted. Many people will be happy with a cheap and cheerful ‘ slap some antifoul paint on the keel job’. Did you contractor know what you wanted?
Obviously my comments are only based on a few quick clips of video and comments from admitted ‘know nothing about boats’.
I’ve been in business of providing service to manufacturing industry for 45 years and being sure you know what is expected is so important. Fortunately I was working with repeat customers time and time again so I would get a chance to know what was expected of me and my crew but in your case, a one time boat coming in here to get some work done while you wander off on holiday it’s a little hard for the contractor to know what is expected.
Years ago, my dad had his boat hauled every year for the winter by the same yard, and did a lot of the work himself, but certainly contracted out a fair amount of work to the yard that had its own employees who were overseen by a supervisor, and if there was something that he wasn’t satisfied, he would call them back in and they would figure out what needed to be done. It sounds like you’re working in a subcontractors yard where unless you have some good recommendations through word of mouth you don’t know what to expect.
Lesson learned, stay close and available when boat is on the hard having work done (you don’t have to do it all your self) or pay more and go to a yard where there is a reputation to be maintained.
Best of luck , sorry I banged on rather there.
Cheers Warren
These days you're lucky just to get people to show up and do the work, even if it IS shit-tier work… I went to a place in florida and they screwed up so badly I had to leave and sail up to a place in Virginia where I've had my boat on the hard for a year now and stuff is only recently starting to get done. At least it's being done right though.