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Sailing Northern Ireland – Subiectul care nu trebuie numit – Ep. 323
Fascinating. I think in reality (broken ribs or not) lifting with the body harness on a halyard is more an option with any sort of chop. Even hove too in the lee spot you have to get hold of casualty (boat hook) to gain control. Tie off the casualty, then get the sling and then try and deploy it, it all takes time. The halyard is there and will work. ? Well done for trying these things and thanks for sharing.
We did a couple of similar trials with my wife winching me back aboard. I came out looking like a smurf after sliding up the blue antifouling. I found it pretty painful being winched back aboard with a lifejacket digging into my ribs too.
The intrepid Gaynor playing the water version of a crash test dummy.
I fell in end of October 2007 off the pontoon while mooring. Wouldn’t wish that cold on anyone
Fantastic video topic. My biggest fear is John falling off
The best solution is to be always clipped on and never go overboard. Like they saying goes there are old sailors and there are bold sailors but there are no old bold sailors. interesting experiment all the same, well done for testing it out👍
Did you try the push down to pop up method of buoyancy and get out for the dinghy
Did you have a pattern for the life sling?
Guessing spending the winter season in the gym / weight training might pay off. New reason for exercise apart from my kickboxing
SY Cordelia had a very interesting way to get into dinghy a few episodes back ( plus hilarious comment that nearly had me laughing so hard I couldn't breathe).
BTW seriously jealous of the swing leg carelessly over the washboard without injury…joys of being tall.
A very good video, people don't want to talk about going overboard and I get why.
The fact is that going overboard is a real danger and you should think about what you are going to do.
I also tried the rope method and I barely made it on board but I was exhausted after that, now image the boat moving at say 5 knots, then you probably drown using that methode. I think you are on to something with the life-sling, although I wonder how it would work in less than idle situations.
Stay warm and have a great week.
The other great advantage of your sling is the horizontal position of the " casualty " during the lift, which maintains a more stable blood pressure. Lifting vertically could crash a compromised persons blood pressure ………….
Excellent vid 👍👍👍👍👍
Do you think letting some air outdone side of the dinghy so one sponson is part deflated could help?
Makes you think. What is the point of a life jacket? And even a tether. Once you're over the side, even tethered, the chances of getting back aboard are slim. I did hear a storey, a true one, of a solo sailor who was tethered and went over the side. He couldn't get back aboard so he cut his tether and worked his way down the boat to the stern where he felt he would have a better chance. Everything was going fine until his lifejacket auto inflated and blew him off the boat. Fortunately he had a personal EPIRB and was rescued. This all happened about 100 miles off the north east coast of Australia.
Great video and well done on testing. What about those rescue slings that you can buy? Looks like they just go under arms and round waist? We don't have anything like that at the moment yet, just throw line, Danbuoy and lifebelt…
Great video ladies, really informative and food for thought 👍
Now that is really worth watching slowly a second time. Ladies congrats for a highlighting a really important subject.
My daughter, when she was 30 yrs., climbed from the water via the water stay, onto the bow sprit and over the pullpit. She is very fit. But I have told wife and 'children', if you fall overboard when under sail, you are dead. If resqued, that will be pure luck. Like winning 10 mill GPB on the lottery.
I'm seriously impressed by your commitment in the interest of safety. Here's a wee story which might help to emphasise the importance of this subject.
I travelled across the Atlantic many moons ago aboard one of Her Majesty's Commando carriers. I had a conversation with the ship's diver who had been tasked as Lifebuoy sentry during a replenishment at sea. In this process various stores, including Mail, are transferred from one ship to another via breeches buoy – long bits of thick string from one vessel to the other! The mail pallet wasn't secure and a bag went in the oggin. He was instructed to go overboard and stay with the bag until it, and he, were collected by a helicopter. He said afterwards it was his first time in mid-ocean and alone. He swam to the bag and made himself secure. He then said he looked around but from his level a few inches above sea-level he could only see about 4/500 yards and only when at the top of a wave. As he said by the time he got to the bag he had no idea what direction the ship had gone although he could hear the noise of the engines gradually get fainter. Wearing a dry-suit and lots of layers he said he was physically reasonably comfortable but started to think…
Did I hear the order correctly?
Should I have gone over?
Did my mate watch me or was he daydreaming?
Do they know I'm here?
After 10 minutes he said he had decided he was changing his specialisation and was going for something less challenging – if he survived.
After 15 minutes he heard the noise of the helicopter and 5 minutes later he and the bag were on their way back to the ship. He said he kissed the crewman who dragged him into the door of the Wessex…!
According to Wikipedia…
"From 2000-2018, 284 people have gone overboard or fallen off cruise ships and a further 41 have fallen off large ferries. In any given month, approximately two people go overboard." The scary bit,
"Between 17 percent and 25 percent of people who go overboard are rescued."
So on average in a year 24 folk will take an unintentional bath.
Between 4 and 6 will survive. 18 to 20 will not…
What a cheerful thought…
Not.
Rule 1. of sailing. DO NOT FALL OVERBOARD.
There are no more rules…
Well done ladies.
Thank you both for the video. While these topics may not be as popular as videos, they are necessary because sailing, like it or not, is a high-risk activity and the more prepared you are, the safer you are. My boat has a four-foot freeboard and there is no way someone is climbing up the side, no matter how strong he/she may be. It is essential to have a recovery system on board that works and one that you know how to use. I have to admit it did look cold!
What a great demo ,,food for thought as Im planning a passage to Scotland this summer ,in fact quite sobering !! Thanks for sharing !!
Great video love John
Sorry one you never tried. It. Works your anchor lower it sit on it or stand on it and winch up elc or hand.
Bosuns chair main halyard 😅
Thanks gals good info
Great to see two ladies taking on the difficult topics. As we get older and loose strength or live life with advancing mobility issues it’s a sobering thought what would happen if you suddenly needed gorilla strength.
I clearly broke the YT stats by watching this, I’m now going to order some webbing. Thanks for braving the cold water to demonstrate.
Hello! I just discovered your nice channel, and yes I think you cover interesting topics all the time. I am retiring in six months, have a small 30 foot sailboat that I am upgrading for a semi live aboard life.I appreciate your videos, tips and tricks and follow you with pleasure. Greetings, Tony
This has made me think about our recovery capabilities, so thanks very much ladies.
Very good! Not everyone will try that.
One method I was told from a dinghy is to, holding the head of the casualty out of water the best as possible, pull one leg first in the dinghy, then the other, pull it a bit inwhile holding the arms so the torso is floating out the water. Then using your own body weight pull the two arms up, while you are failing back, and you got the casualty in. It is very difficult to explain especially with my broken English but I tried in a big rib and I managed
Fair play, I’ve never seen a sling like yours before and what a great idea, how many of us just sitting on anchor or a mooring enjoying the sunshine and some grub, and not all of us wear life lines on anchor, maybe a buoyancy jacket, and we get up and stumble and over we go but hit our head on the way down, absolutely helpless in the water, some chance of getting that person out of the water with the sling👏 Hopefully we’ll have better weather this summer in Sunny West Cork ☀️☀️⛵️
Great video about an essential subject. We bought Duncan Wells MOB Lifesavers for all our lifejackets – they are approx £18 and give you a floating dyneema strop attached to the lifejacket harness and this makes it much easier to get the ‘casualty’ connected to the boat, which is a big issue in non flat seas. The sling you developed looks great (maybe you should sell them?) & looks a great alternative to a handy billy on a halyard. We sail as a couple & one of us is way heavier than the other – guess which one of us is likely to fall in!? Thanks for sharing ⛵️
Great subject, often talked about, but never practiced. Id like to make a suggestion. If you attach a pulley to the bottom of the mast facing forward, run the halyard through it to the windless rope drum. I’m not sure what windless you have, mines has rope drum opposite side of the gypsy. It would be a lot easier on the person on the winch handle, possibly quicker as well.
Great video, thank you.
You should have an inflatable life jacket that has a sewn in harness so that you could clip a snap shocking onto it with a separate set of blocks shackles on both ends clip one to your boom, or whatever you got so that you have the ability to pull somebody up a five or 6 to 1 set of blocks and just hoist them up, perhaps get onto a mast winchor what have you but you can on snap at the end of your boom blocks and swing the boom out pull them up on the end of the boom and swinging back in
Now that is as a very interesting video. Am going to have to rethink my recovery procedures. I think I will look at your sling method which as you say works very well. I may well look at adopting some canvas for the purpose.
Great Video. Thank you for making the time and effort to highlight this issue. Nobody plans to go overboard and bodily reactions of a conscious person are severely hampered by sea state, cold water and tiredness if several attempts to recover are required. I hope viewers will be prompted to consider their actions and to practice various scenarios in a safe and controlled manner before having to do this for real in much less favourable conditions.
12 out of 10 for dedication
John just got to watch your video. Seriously well impressed by your brilliant sling design and how effective it was. Very important to highlight the dangerous side of life afloat
Episode 229 gives the sling design plan