Astăzi vorbim despre primele cinci probleme cu barca cu pânze pe care le vedem atunci când cumpărăm bărci second hand. Fibră de sticlă crăpată, probleme cu motorul diesel, înlocuirea velelor dacron, fisurarea articulației chilei Catalina Smile și cum se repară articulația chilei, șuruburile chilei și fitingurile de tachelaj ruginite. Înainte de a cumpăra o barcă cu pânze, știi în ce te bagi, cât va costa repararea ambarcațiunii și cum să faci lucrul! Ai nevoie de un consult? Faceți clic aici pentru a trimite un mesaj: https://ladyksailing.com/consults/ Vrei să ajuți să sprijiniți Lady K Sailing? Faceți clic aici pentru a deveni Patron: http://www.patreon.com/ladyksailing Sau aici pentru a face o donație unică: http://www.ladyksailing.com/team-k Urmărește-l pe Lady K pe Facebook: https:// www.facebook.com/ladyksailing sau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladyksailing/
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Ați cumpăra o barcă cu pânze cu probleme? Ep 267 – Lady K Sailing
Really informative! Thanks Tim!
Problems can be fixed and make cheap boats. Positive attitude helps 😊Here is a trick: assume every system in the boat has issues, if it does you wore expecting it, if it doesn't you will be pleasantly surprised. Im fixing our Second sailboat and i find it to be the case. https://youtu.be/UtkSevq7a1k?si=qC3M_vaOSBDa2mZT
I bought a Catilina 27 a few weeks ago for 2K, sat in the water for 2 years minimum through the tropical storms in Tampa. Deck is sound, interior is dry – some water in the bilge but the bilge pump was dead. The diver who cleaned off the oyster farm said the hull seemed sound and no blisters, just needs sanding and paint.
The main problems are the engine (m 18 with 950 hrs) won't hold a prime, but that is probably me not knowing what I'm doing, and the Genoa's leech is sun damaged.
I sewed on new tape on the leech and foot, and have Sunbrella ordered for UV cover that I am hoping will last the 600 nm trip home (3-4 days up the St John River). I THINK it is a 130, so I'll look into getting it cut down when I get here.
Hoping next year it will be ready to get the hell out of Florida!
Thats it!
That’s when stuff goes bang!
Great video! Looking forward to part II.
My guess it will be: Standing rigging/Spar, Running rigging, Spongey decks, Water intrusion/woodwork to be replaced, and something else I haven't thought of yet.
Either way, I'll watch it.
Thanks Tim
Is the reason that epoxy sticks to polyester but not the reverse due to using a fast curing hardener? A long time ago I was warned only to use slow cure hardeners to prevent an amine surface from forming on the epoxy, discouraging further layers of anything unless it is possible to wash off the amine. Thanks for the video, and congrats on the new gig!
A big tell tell sign with diesels is blow by. Really on all engines crankcase ventilation needs to be disconnected if possible check for heavy vapors out of crankcase. By removing the oil fill.
I’ve walked away from boats that had water in the bilge and a grounding. The brokers insistence on the crack around the keel was purely cosmetic was a red flag. No keel issues!
Another I looked at had a “start problem” with the motor. I rang around and found the diesel mechanic whom had worked on it. It wouldn’t start because it was seized and the owner had bought cheap Chinese starter motor which had burned out. Red flags, bad motor and a cheap owner. Walked away. The other stuff, I can deal with. Motor and keel are deal breakers unless the motor problem is adjusting the price fairly.
There are sailboats without problems?!?
Love this video! Before I discovered Lady K Sailing I had determined that I was going to retire on a sailboat. I grew up in marinas, mainly in Gloucester, Massachusetts, and am former Coast Guard. I had a sailboat and power boat but have been out of the sailing life for a bit. So, to get back in the swing, and to learn things I would need to know when I retired, I bought a fixer upper 1982 ComPac 23. Hull crack below the waterline aft of the cement filled keel, hole through the deck where the gas tank for the outboard would be, and a mast tabernacle that needed to be rebuilt. So… bought the boat, it rained for two weeks straight so no work on it. Went to work on the tabernacle, found the cabin full of water (I had thought the cracks in the gel coat were just that… nope). Through deck cracks right into the hull from the fuel tank cubby under the rudder. Mentioned them above but didn't find them 'til latter! Anyway, spent last summer fixing these issues, and needed new cushions throughout. No foam either, I needed everything. Got quotes for the cushions, had a minor stroke and said F that! Bought a Brother sewing machine and got a sail bag kit from Sailrite to use teaching myself to sew. Made the bag, I'm fussy so I would give it a 7.5 but the flaws I point out are laughed at by my friends who didn't see them (so they say). Bought everything I needed for the v-berth cushions and made those. I am definitely improving! Anyway, as far as our mentor of 267 episodes has said many times, you have to decide how much you want to do (work) to get your dream boat ready to roll (I have paraphrased, sue me). I was willing to do a lot on the ComPac, to learn skills I might need next time. I will be buying something bigger next year but it will be a decent representative of its class and not a total fixer upper. I want to retire after all, not repair boats! Plus, I have been slicing all kinds of rope since I was 10 and now I can sew and make boat cushions! Couple of great skills to have as a retired dude on a boat.
I got a 20-foot trailer sailer with a concrete encapsulated keel for free because the keel was damaged and concrete was spilling out of the side. I fixed it myself and basically ended up grinding down the entire keel and recovering it with West System epoxy and biaxial cloth. Did it cost twice as much as I thought it would? Yes. Would I do it again? Yes!
Love your show. I just purchased a decked out Catalina 36 mkI. Using your advice I was able to filter this gem from the rest of the Chaffee. One point of note: check any wiring work done for proper marine materials used.
Great episode.
The #1 thing I have is a Marine moisture meter .It can tell you in a few minutes if the decks or area around the mast is wet
I was very lucky the Used Catalina 27 the owner had a 5 inch thick book of every oil change , every nut sail or part he replaced
Plus the guy who did most of the work is a sailor in the same club . So I would just ask him any questions I have
Launch Apr 30th since no ice but water levels down
I bought a 1991 Tartan 31 in May 2023. I had a good consultant and a good surveyor, who both gave her the thumbs up ("above average" on the survey report). No fiberglass problems except a few stress cracks in the gelcoat in the usual places. No keel smile. Standing rigging was good, but the running rigging needed replacement. I replaced all the halyards with dyneema, along with new delrin sheaves, and replaced all the sheets with braided dacron. The previous owner had just replaced both the main and furling genoa with brand-new North sails. The engine is a two-cylinder Volvo Penta which had 842 hours on it.
Other than a thorough cleaning, I only had to fix a leaky water strainer and replace some water hoses. I found out later that the heating element in the hot water tank was burned out, but I'm going to remove the hot water tank anyway, I really have no use for hot water.
With a friend I sailed her 850 nm through the Great Lakes to her new home port, no problems except for some water in the Racor filter, so had to drain that halfway through the voyage besides adding engine oil periodically, as we found that the engine does consume oil, about a quart every 50 hours. I'm not sure what to do about that, someone mentioned that the valve seals usually leak on older marine diesels.
I attribute my good fortune with this boat to her excellent build quality, good maintenance by the previous owners, exclusive fresh water use (had probably never left Lake Erie), and light seasonal use. In the parlance of the boat trade, she was "unmolested", the previous owners having left everything as built.
I still have a long list of upgrades I want to do, but overall I'm very happy with this boat and look forward to years of happy sailing.
I'm on my 3rd 1980's Mirage sailboat because they're decks & hulls were never cored with balsa wood. If needed, you can easily replace the worn out inboard with a stern-mounted four-stroke outboard which will also save you thousands of dollars. Replacing the sheets & halyards is easy & it won't brake the bank, so just do it.
Dodging the expense of new sails or rigging is elusive. I found it's easier & more cost effective for a recreational sailor to repair worn out sails than to purchase new sails. But, if you think your old rigging is expensive to replace just wait until the mast collapses when the old rigging suddenly breaks. Now you're talking big bucks.
I've never experienced or seen any problems with a bolted-on keels made by Mirage Sailboats. However, I wouldn't recommend using the bottom of any bolt-on keel to til-up a shallow seabed.
Brilliant, advice given thank you. From Australia 🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘
As always, full of good information. Thanks, Tim
You lost weight! Looking good man! Love the content, keep it coming 🎉
I love the idea of adapting an air cooled undersized diesel. They're cheap, easily replaced, and better for charging batteries. I'm also wondering about replacing cast steel keels with an aluminum keel with a bottom lead bulb. The hardest problem I encounter is where to live near your boat. Almost all sea and inlet zones are expensive.
Bought a very neglected Beneteau Oceanis 400 for roughly half of market value. Best point was a good engine. Spent a year replacing all rigging, chain plates, mast step, keel bolts, some sails and canvas, chain and anchor, all through hull fittings, electronics – pretty much servicing everything. Did a lot myself and had lots of help from sailing friends. A year later it was safe to take back out for a sail. Two years later first coastal cruise. Lesson? Over the two years I spent as much as having bought a good yacht to begin with. However, I was able to pay for the refit as I went and earned money, so accrued no debt or did not have to liquidate other assets. And now everything important is brand new with a 10 year life span. But a project like this takes time away from sailing, requires you to be able to do a lot yourself to be economical. It's definitely not for the fain hearted but can be a good option.
buying sails every 4 or 5 years is not a racer.
Love this type of vid. Ultra practical
Thanks Tim. Your usual intelligent video. Much appreciated. I hadnt thought of using a halyard in lieu of s stay to be replaced. Smart. In a few years time that might be useful info for us mate
Is it possible to buy any sailboat without any problems? Even a brand new boat will typically have issues that need to be worked out.
I bought a boat with a lot of problems. In the process of removing them. It was the boat that I wanted. As Walter Schultz stated, sometimes the boat picks you
What a fabulous know how video…. Found two nuggets… buy used sails! Only replace one shroud at a time so the rigger appreciates you instead of crisis and chaos…. Love the videos
Thanks Tim great video wonderfully thought invoking, lessons i'd rather learn here than latter by mistake 🙂
You hit on sails a little bit. Would you please do an Indepth look at sail materials and their uses. Plus, the popular modern sail types and their uses. If there is an episode that covers this, please let me know. Thx
I've done a few multi cracks and to be honest the best results I have had is to 'dremmel' just the cracks to full depth and epoxy fill. Flat it off and re-gelcoat or paint. more often than not it is just the gelcoat that has cracked.
I love your channel. Your delivery is so matter of fact and blunt. I love it. My sister had to do chain plates on her 43' sailboat after she and her husband bought it. They were pretty bad and this cost them about $15k to replace them along with the standing rigging. Fortunately, her boat had them mounted on the outside of the hull so replacing them wasn't too difficult.
I should of but nooooo, I'll wait until i got the cash. Then i had a stroke and considered lucky to be still walking.
I bought a "project" boat knowing it was a problem child. I did all the work myself from new floors to headliner, I only have about $6000 usd in it. but a lot of time. It's worth 3 times what I paid. If you have the skills, some major problems really are not that major. Most people would never even consider gutting a boat to the hull but its really not that bad.
Thanks Tim!… The only things I need to fix on my little 25ft are things I broke myself… but I am fairly handy, and enjoy puttering on it as much as using it… I have half the boat in the the basement workshop refurbishing them over the winter. Next up, learn to sail without the motor on!
Engine question
Looking at a Gemini Mc 105 that has 3,000 hours on the Westerbeake 30 B diesel is that too many ?
We bought our boat with a bad engine and squishy part of the deck. One winter along we fixed the deck and the engine. We now have a beatiful Victoire that cost us half of what they normally sell for.
We knew what we got into because of a survey, and I know my way around engines and epoxy, so for us this was the right decision. However be prepared to shell out a LOT of your free time. I had to start working parttime because of the boat project to keep my sanity.
Remember: with boat maintenance the time is normally the constraint, with upgrading the wearable parts it’s the money.
Your opinion on the Kraken 50
We all have problems
On a say 28 footer, doing some stuff, absolutely. But I'm getting too old for big projects, 'I'd rather be sailing'. Nope, unlike Lady K she wouldn't look new, just fixed and yep, she'd be getting good used sails. Like many people, my stuff always looks its best when I bloody sell! Cheers.⚓
Excellent points for buyers, I searched for my sailboat based on a criteria of Cap screen Ratio, I was looking for a stiff boat, in the blue water era, I looked for good design, good bones, and knew I would make repairs, the major systems were sound, some were old, but could be upgraded, and added sweat equity, my Cal 2-30 is coming together I’m in the PNW, previous owner went to Hawaii, and Australia so she’s proven for offshore, should get me to the Caribbean 😅 Davethemmp, from Vancouver Canada 🇨🇦
No, I'd wait for future technology which has sailboats with no real problems.
You can love sailboats but they won't love you.
You can love the ocean but it will crush you like a piece of straw.
I'm in a sailing coop and the standing joke is that the people who source boats aren't the people who have to bring them up to snuff. Hey, this boat is free! well, not really… We're not sourcing boats all the time and the benefit of learning maintenance and repairs might be an less tangible benefit to newbies like me.
Awesome, very helpful!